US Merchant Marine Academy Men’s Soccer – Coach Daniel Gwyther
On today’s episode, I speak with Coach Daniel Gwyther from the USMMA Men’s Program in New York. We talk about they are one of the 5 Federal Service Academies. He describes how their graduates have a leg up in job placement. Lastly, we discuss the typical weekly schedule for their athletes. Learn more about US Merchant Marine Academy Men’s Soccer.
Matt: [00:00:00] Hi everybody. Welcome to Discover College Soccer. Today I’m lucky enough to be joined by Coach Daniel Gwyther from the US Merchant Marine Academy. Welcome coach.
Coach: Thank you, Matt. Thank you for having me.
Matt: Ah, thanks for being here. You know, uh, just talking, I, I played against, uh, your school a couple times in my day and, uh, I’m, I’m sure that unfortunately you hung a couple L’s on me, and I’m sure you’re cont you guys are continuing to do that, uh, to your opponents.
But, uh, but. It’s interesting cuz you guys aren’t, you know, you’re, I would not call a traditional, uh, school, right? Uh, the, I mean, it’s right there in the name US Merchant Marine Academy. So talk to me a little bit about the recruiting process. Uh, you know, when do you start talking to kids? How are you, are, is there something different that, that you’re doing to, to find kids who are interested in a program like yours?
Coach: Yeah, I think firstly you, you have to understand, you know, what, what we are as an institution. I think that’s critical because, um, we’re a little bit of a hidden gem. Um, and obviously as in a [00:01:00] recruiting point of view, you don’t want that. You want this to be, you wanna illuminate it. But look, we are one of the five federal service academies here in the us.
You have ourselves, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard. Um, I think what separates us from our sister schools is that upon graduation, there is actually no requirement to serve in the armed services. You have the option to. And should you go that route, You can choose any other services. You can commission as an officer to Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard in Space Force.
Or you can go choose to go into the private sector upon graduation and fulfill your commitment through that way. But while whilst being a Navy reservist, and I think, um, one of the benefits of that is that, you know, you have that flexibility choice to sort of blaze your own trout and you can come in and try things.
So, If you take like West Point or uh, uh, you know, Navy down there, amazing institutions. But one thing you know, upon graduation, you’re going into that service no if or but whereas we give you about three years to sort of pick and choose, uh, whether you wanna go active duty or you wanna go into the private side.
And soon you go to the private side. It’s [00:02:00] extremely lucrative salaries. You know, we had seniors graduate last year, uh, like last year in 2022. Um, you know, they’re starting salaries $145,000 and that’s just six months of work. Cuz the way the industry works is one month on, one month off. So I’ll challenge any institution out there that can offer that sort of earning power post-graduation, or albeit a free education as well worth $330,000 over four years.
So it’s a very, very, um, Good institution, you know, world class academics. Uh, you get all the leadership development components built into that. But obviously it’s a different experience than what you’d expect at other universities. Like say locally, like here, like Stony Brook or Hofstra, you know, you have to be cut from a certain cloth.
The academics are rigorous. You have the, the regimen and then obviously, you know, on top of that you’re a varsity, um, athlete as well. So lot built into it. Um, you know, and in terms of recruiting, we start early. Um, you know, I primarily do auto recruiting at the academy for the men’s soccer program. Um, you know, we are, we’ve pretty much wrapped up our 23 class now, and we’re on, you know, our 20 fours.
You know, we’ve, we’ve already identified four or [00:03:00] five. We’ve had three or four on campus already. Um, you know, we’ve made offers to, to 20, 20 fours already as well. Um, we like to get our ducks in a row early. Um, and primarily one of the reasons is because, You know, um, on top of all, all the application materials that you need, you know, such as your transcripts and SATs acts, you also need a couple of components which are a bit unique, which are CFA can fitness assessment.
You need your nomination from a congressman, congressman, or a senator. And then you have to do your DOMA physical as well. So that’s why we like to get our recruiting ahead of time so that when the application window opens, which is obviously may, um, before the, the actual intake, um, the, the, our recruits can get on it straight away and start ticking off their required, um, materials to, to um, obtain an appointment at the academy.
Okay.
Matt: Now in terms of the recruiting side, how much. Uh, of it is you guys going out and finding people versus people being interested in the particular, uh, academy and, and the merchant marine industry?
Coach: [00:04:00] Yeah, really good question. I think right now we’re probably about, At 75, 25 I, I go out and find players.
You know, the, the level we recruit at are, you know, MLS next Ecnl. Um, that’s primarily our, our hunting ground. And that’s not to say we don’t look at other places like EDP and USO Academy, we do. Um, but those sort of the, the areas we target, um, and the way we go about doing our business in terms us going out and recruiting is obviously we go to the events.
You knows next has one out in Los Fa, Los Angeles in early December. We’ll be fine out to that, to go to that EC and l have some in Florida. Um, you know, on the other side of it, you know, ODP Nationals is down in Florida as well. Ed, uh, EDP have a load of events. Um, you know, so we, we, we go everywhere. We, we try to have no stone uncovered.
And also one of the big things for us is going to our sister schools ID camp. So we’ve got fantastic relationships with, with Navy and Army and Air Force. Can’t, can’t speak highly enough about their coaching staff there. They’re extremely welcoming and accommodating for myself when I go out there. I have a fairly amazing time there.[00:05:00]
Um, obviously they’re exceptional institutions as well, you know, sim similar, um, you know, in terms of what we do in terms of leadership development and, and developing young men and women to sort of serve the, as a higher purpose post-graduation. Um, but I would say that incorporates about 75 8 cent and then 20% probably would probably re reach out to us from, you know, Alumni, they’ve heard about the, the institution from like a, uh, like a cong, like a National Academy night, uh, somewhere that’s been hosted in their, in their state.
Um, so I think that that really sort of breaks it down in, in, in how we operate in our recruiting cycles. Okay.
Matt: Now do you guys do any camps or do you, I mean, you said you mentioned work in the camps of the other academies, but how, how much do camps fit into your overall recruiting process?
Coach: We, we currently don’t do one right now.
Um, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve, we are looking to establish them. Um, we’re working with the Academy to do that. There’s a couple of, um, challenges involved because of, of being government employees, um, which, which is, which is which we’re working through. But [00:06:00] our aim is to establish ’em, you know, in, in 2023 for sure.
I. When, when we do speak to recruits, when recruits reach out to us, I would say four outta five are asking about ID companies that we run at the Academy current. Currently we don’t. And you know, I think it’s an unset market for us because it’s a, it’s a win-win situation. I think we can bring, you know, young men who are interested in active duty or the maritime industry, um, or getting a world class education, um, and sort of, you know, bringing ’em on, seeing what they like as, as players.
As people do they have the raw ingredients to be leaders, Um, you know, what their, what’s their character like? And then also, you know, getting a feel for, for the campus institution as well, because that’s really important I think. We’re in a really nice part of the world. Uh, we’re in the, you know, um, the locally known as a Gold Coast, Long Island, 30 minutes outside Manhattan in New York.
Um, you know, we’re in one of the richest zip codes in the country in, in, in King’s Point. So it’s a really, really nice area. And I think, you know, when we have our recruits come on campus, they, they see that it’s a, it is a quaint campus. We have a [00:07:00] thousand students. Um, so, you know, you are, you’re not a number.
Everybody knows who you are from the, all the faculty even know who you are. All the students know who you are. So it’s a really nice, tight knit atmosphere, but it’s important for us to have people on campus to illuminate the school, but also to to to understand. What your, what’s expected of you, uh, during your four years at the academy, Because as I mentioned earlier, it’s not gonna be a traditional, uh, college experience.
You know, there’s gonna be certain elements that are gonna be rigorous and you have to have those, um, traits of, of perseverance and determination to succeed at the academy For sure.
Matt: Yeah, no, that, that makes a lot of sense. Um, well let’s talk a little bit more about the school, um, in terms of, you know, you’ve, you’ve, you’ve covered a little bit of ground, but, you know, kind of gimme some of the, the, the behind the scenes stuff.
I’m maybe not gonna find out just by clicking around the website that, that might ma might interest me if I was looking at, at a school like yours.
Coach: Yeah, definitely. Um, I think, you know, talked about it a little bit earlier, but, uh, I’ll sort of dive into it. You know, the Academy pretty much has [00:08:00] two academic programs.
It’s business or engineering. And when you come to the Academy, um, what you do is that you, whichever track you decide, engineer a business, you have an Associated Coast Guard license with that. So, You know, if you went to, let’s say I just use Stony Brook as an example, you know, and you did an engineering degree, you’d graduate there in about four years and about a hundred twenty, a hundred twenty five credits at the academy.
You’re gonna graduate about 180 credits. And the reason is that is because you do your undergraduate, which is your bachelor’s science in business’s essay. But you also do your deck license. So what that means is you can, upon graduation, you obtain your US Coast Guard deck license. You can operate any vessel of any tonnage that bears us flag, which means when you go into the private sector, that’s where it really com commands a premium because you cannot operate vessels without that.
And it really is the gold stamp. So, um, that, that’s one of the things that, um, you know, is, is rigorous about the academy. We have a little bit of an e more elongated academic year to fit that amount of credits in. Um, you know, we’re in the tri semester, um, so that’s why it’s a little bit longer than [00:09:00] your traditional college, um, academic.
I think on top of that though, the amazing thing and, and why our graduates are so highly in demand is that in, in building your curriculum, whether you go business or you go, uh, engine, we call it engineering engine, um, you get to spend two periods of your time at sea. Uh, one, one in the, uh, sophomore year for about 90 days, and another one in your junior of about 120.
And it’s needed to ob uh, to, to, you know, obtain your license. You need certain amounts of C days. But the amazing thing about it is you get to travel the world. You know, our graduates will, you know, uh, visit anywhere between 15 and 20 different countries at their time at the academy. And, and they’ll get paid 15 to $20,000 to do it because it’s basically a paid internship.
Um, you know, you are, you’re expected to contribute to the maintenance and the operations of the ship, you know, the engine room or the deck and that. Um, so I think it’s a really, really mature experience for our, our, um, our mid shipment. Um, and I think it’s a really big eye-opener because they, like I said, they get to visit 15, 20 [00:10:00] countries and, you know, when they’re in port, they get to go off and, and, and do things.
You know, as example one of us, uh, our captains. Graduated a couple years ago in his junior experience, you know, he, he did a grain run down Africa. Um, so, you know, he was able to get off on I, you know, in ports in the Ivory Coast and go play soccer at the locals for free day. So, you know, that those sort of experience, you know, you’re not gonna get any other score, I don’t think, or, and if you do, you’re gonna pay for that privilege.
And I think with us, you, you get it for free, plus you get to earn money while doing it. Plus you get work experience which pays dividends, you know, post-graduation. There’s, there’s a lot of amazing opportunities in academy, um, to explore, um, to really mature as a, as a young man or young lady. Um, and I think it, you know, it really is a, a fantastic curriculum.
Um, obviously it’s, its can be, um, intense, you know, in terms of the credit load, but certainly, um, worth it. And you know, as I saying at the academy, we quote four for 40, It’s four years of hard work for four years of good life. Because one thing I promise people watching on this, this video right now, Nobody [00:11:00] struggles coming outta the academy.
Everybody does really, really well for themselves in whatever industry they choose. Um, and, and they do amazing things because, you know, whether they go active duty and they do their five years, or they make a career out of that, or they go into the private sector in the maritime industry, um, and make a career out of that, or go into different things, you know, they, they, the, the skill sets and the traits that they learn at the academy is highly valued in the marketplace.
And, you know, heavy hitting companies like the Apples and Googles actively recruit us. Graduates because of that, because they’ve got that leadership qualities, they’ve got that time management and that qualities, they’ve got that discipline, they’ve got that, uh, understanding of, you know, cradle to grave execution.
So it really does equip Yeah. Uh, uh, you know, the young men and women here to, to be successful in whatever pathway they choose post-graduation.
Matt: Oh, that’s great. Well, with all that rigor and all the things that they’re doing, can you, can you walk me through what, like a a, a typical week during the season is gonna look like, you know, in terms of when am I getting up, eating breakfasts, uh, classes, practice games, the whole kind of [00:12:00] shooting match.
What, what does that look like in a typical week?
Coach: Yeah, certainly. Uh, I think, you know, we, we take season, so, um, you know, if we, if we are, if we get into the regular season, we’ll say so. Uh, we practice Monday, practice Tuesday. We’ll have a game Wednesday. We’ll have maybe a light practice on Thursday or maybe off, depending if we want to just, you know, give the boys a little bit of respite.
Um, then we’ll practice Friday game, Saturday off Sunday. That’s pretty much how the, the season works from, from the beginning, you know, the regular season, uh, all the way to, you know, end of the regular season and then obviously in playoffs, you know, and then when playoffs, then you go into nationals and that, uh, a typical day in the life of a midshipman for a, for a student athlete and a men’s soccer program.
You know, you’d be waking up about five 30, quarter to six, um, you know, making sure your room’s tight, you’re getting your uniform on, um, going out, saluting the flag. Um, going to breakfast. Breakfast finishes about seven 30, and then you’re straight into classes, you know, in classes till about 11, 11, 10, 11 20.
Then lunch is 1140. Uh, everybody eats lunch at the same time. The whole regimen breaks down. [00:13:00] They, they, they form up and they march in and they. We do a, a family style on lunchtime, which is nice. So we have, you know, on a table, two seniors, two juniors, two sophomores, two freshmen, um, you know, check in, uh, sort of time to see how they’re doing, you know, how the day’s going, how the professors’ going, you know, talk about soccer, you know, just sort of gap to scratch with what’s going on.
Any issues as well that they can, they can help with. Um, and then, and then, you know, lunch finishes back into class, and class is finished anywhere between like three 30 and four 30, depending on your schedule. And then we traditionally go, we practice from five till 6 45. Um, uh, and then the boys go to dinner at seven, um, you know, eat dinner, finish 7, 7 40.
Um, then they hit the books for a couple of hours and then it’s reference repeat. And, and, and that’s really the, the sort of structure of a day and, and, You know, while the days along the weeks are quick, cuz the academy keeps, that, keeps them busy. And uh, you know, the time certainly flies. I mean, we are literally a week away from at the end of our tri first tri semester and it, you know, it seems like [00:14:00] yesterday that our freshman class came in and, and we’re going Ford Index.
So it does go quick.
Matt: Yeah, I bet. Well, let’s talk a a little bit more about the, the soccer side of things. Um, do you guys have a roster size that you, you try to hit each?
Coach: Yeah, it’s a good question. I, we don’t have like a a, we have like a ballpark and then sometimes it’ll be above and sometimes’ be below.
So I think what, ideally we would look for like a, a sort of a 2028 man roster, and that includes free goalkeepers. So 25 players free goalkeepers. Right now we’re at 25 with, with two goalkeepers right now. So, you know, we’ve got, we’ve got 23 players and 22 and two goalkeepers, but, so it can fluctuate. I, I don’t think we would ever look to go over 30, 30.
It’d be an absolute max. I just think that that’s, that the roster size becomes, Uh, too large to sort of incorporate everyone. Um, so I think really the sweet spot is 26 or 28, pretty much. That’s really what we look.
Matt: Okay. And then in terms of staff, how big is the soccer staff? What roles does everybody play?
Coach: Yeah, so we’ve got free, free [00:15:00] staff members, Coach McCarthy, myself and Coach Mason, Coach Mason’s, our goalkeeper coach. Amazing. You know, I think it’s, we are really blessed that, you know, uh, you know, division free program to have a full, you know, a full, um, goalkeeper coach. Um, I think that’s why, you know, especially this year, we’ve got two really high level goalkeepers coming in as well.
Cause I think that’s part of the draw that they get, you know, training. Day in, day out. I think some programs can neglect that. We don’t, we, we see it as a really important part of puzzle. Um, I think Coach McCarthy, um, you know, and myself, we, we sort of do the, the, the and Coach Mason as well. We all get together and we do looked at like, uh, you know, the strategy of the team, you know, the tactics of the team, you know, you know how we would like to play and what our opponent does well and where we think they’ve got weaknesses.
Um, also looking at the personnel business. Cause I think. We look to recruit to certain formations, um, and look to players, you know, with certain traits, but also flexibility to sort of pivot in between formations. Um, but I think you never really truly know until you get into preseason you get going in that first [00:16:00] competitive match.
So, um, you know, that’s why we like to have the flexibility. Um, but you know, the whole staff works together to sort of, you know, Obtain the common goal, which is always to compete for, you know, conference championships because we know, you know, with the automatic bid, you know, that, that, that leads to the, that that’s the yellow brick road that leads to the nationals.
And that’s where we wanna be, you know, friendly. Uh, you know, we always say for every class, you know, the minimum we should be getting is two outta four years. You should be getting into the, into the nationals and that, and I think that’s, that’s a, that’s an attainable goal at the academy considering the, the caliber of student athletes we can recruit here and, and the support that we have from our administration and our flex depart.
Matt: Oh, that, that’s a, that’s a, that’s a good goal to have, right? I mean, you guys are in a tough conference, so, Well, what, um, how would you, how would you describe kind of the overall, uh, style of play and culture of the team?
Coach: Yeah, I think what we, the way we wanna play, uh, you know, we, we have free words that we sort of use.
It’s forward thinking, forward running, forward passing. So I think being a, you know, a [00:17:00] federal service academy is in our d DNA to be fit and athletic. I know we talked about that. And, and we use that to a. We like to be on the front foot. We like to press. Um, I think the, the boys enjoy that style. We’re not a team that likes to sit back and soak up pressure and, you know, hit on the brake.
We’re, we’re the guys who like to sort of get on the front foot and get after teams. I think what, what has happened in the last, uh, you know, since I’ve been there in the last couple of years, I think, uh, we’ve realized that, you know, you need to be able to turn the dial at times because if one way’s not.
If you continue to do that way, sometimes you get found out. So I think in terms of our recruiting strategy and our, and our personnel that we sort of identify traits, we tried to turn that down. So we’ve got some, uh, you know, some technical players as well who can, you know, really sort of command possession and, and sort of control possession when needed because there are times when you need to do that.
And there’s also times when you need to be able to battle, you know, college soccer is, although it’s soccer, it’s a little bit different than traditional soccer because of the rules in, in intertwined in it with the substitutions especially. So, um, you know, I think that we use that to our [00:18:00] advantage. Um, and, and in terms of our recruiting structures, you know, we, we, we’ve identified, especially in the freshman class this year, Guys who can sort of, you know, um, mix it up in terms of, you know, being direct and athletic, but also, you know, bring, being able to bring the ball under control and, and move it through the lines if needed.
Um, so, you know, I think the, the, the DNA is that Ford thinking forward running for passing, um, on the front foot, sort of, um, aggressive, you know, uptempo play. Um, and then from a formation point of view, right now we’re running a four free, free, um, you know, but prior last year we, we, we ran a free five two.
So it really just depends on the person. That, that we think is gonna maximize the opportunity to get results and also, you know, taking into consideration the opponent strengths and weaknesses as well.
Matt: Okay. Well, is there, I mean, do you guys employ any sort of, uh, technology or anything in terms of for practice games and then how does that help the program?
Coach: Yeah, so I think one thing, you know, when I joined, you know, a couple of [00:19:00] years ago was that, you know, I felt, I looked at the injury list that the academy’s having, and I felt it was very, You know, you always have to remember that, you know what, these, these young men and women do, you know, they’re, they’re up early, they’re out, they’re late at night going to bed, You know, because there’s studies and that, you know, sometimes they have watched, sometimes they’re, you know, out, out in the local community, you know, helping the EMTs and stuff like that.
So, you know, sleep is a premium at times. Um, so I think in looking at that, we, we, we placed a huge premium on activation prior to games and prior to practice to ensure that we’re fully ready to. Um, and on top of that, you know, uh, you know, speaking to Coach McCarthy, we, we’ve just purchased and, and got delivery of it, of, of the player maker system, um, which is, you know, a thing that goes on your boot and contracts, your velocity of running tracks, your miles tracks, you know, how many times you’re passing to certain people on the field, um, how many touches you have in your left foot and right foot.
All that good stuff. And, and we think that’s gonna add another sort of dimension to our analysis and help our student athletes. You know, we always say your best ability is your availability. Um, [00:20:00] so, so, so we want everybody fit and ready to go for, for game days. And I think last two years we’ve done an amazing job of that.
We’ve hardly had any soft tissue injuries, which has been fantastic, and it’s a credit to the boys taking on board sort of what information we’ve giving it credit to athletic training staff as well, because again, I’ve been in set with, with Dan Uzi, who’s who, athletic trainer, and. First class with us in terms of, you know, giving us, you know, pre reactivation stuff and, and sort of, uh, ideas on how to, to help the boys, you know, uh, prehab and post, post, uh, postgame sort of recovery, which has been really fruitful for us.
So right now, tho that’s the thing we’re looking at was the plan makers. So we’re excited to get that going. You know, this, this week and, and certainly for the following season as well.
Matt: Oh, that’s, that’s awesome. And, and sorry, I think you mentioned this before, and, and, and pardon me if I didn’t catch it all, but in, just in terms of the total cost to attend and, and all the things that go into that, being a service academy and all that, uh, how does that, how does that work?
Cuz it’s, it’s almost like you’re, you know, you’re division three so you don’t have to worry about [00:21:00] academic or athletic scholarships, but there’s, there’s other scholarships it looks like, that are pretty, uh, pretty available for student athletes, right.
Coach: Yeah, so being a federal service academy, the, the, the, the two, the, the cost of attendance is, is essentially free.
Um, so over four years, that’s worth $330,000. So, you know, coming to the Marine Academy, you basically get a $330,000 full ride. The only thing, the only components that you pay for upon entry is you pay for your computer. So we, we request that you get, uh, a specific computer that’s obviously got the respective, uh, security measures.
Um, cuz we’re a federal service academy and I’m sure everybody on the call, you know, uh, on the. And can see that, you know, cyber security’s quite a big thing right now. Um, so that, that’s part of it. So you pay for that. And then the only other, uh, out of pocket expenses you pay is for haircuts and laundry, and that’s it, really.
Other than that, we take care of everything, all uniform, everything else, food, you know, board, um, books, everything’s taken care of. So, um, it’s a really, really good gig because, um, you know, when you boil it down, um, you, [00:22:00] you’re basically You get a $330,000 full ride and a minimum you’ve gotta give back is two weeks a year for reservist for five years, and that’s it.
That’s, and then that fulfills your commitment. So it’s a really, really good trade off.
Matt: Yeah. That’s amazing. Well, coach, I usually like to end these the same way, which is, what didn’t we talk about? Uh, whether that’s about the school, about the recruiting process, the team, anything in general? Uh, I’d like to, to give you the last word.
Coach: Yeah, I think, you know, being a federal service academy, um, you know, when we in a really good location, you know, just five minutes, size minutes outside Manhattan, I think one of the things, again, which is great about the program is that we recruit nationally, right? So again, on, on the team, you have, you know, guys from Idaho, from California, Florida, Texas, you know, obviously tri-state area, uh, Wisconsin.
So any, everywhere and in between. So, you know, we are open to finding the best talent all around the country. Um, we, we, we want to recruit, um, Players from different geographic regions, different diversities, because we want a full [00:23:00] representation of what the United States is. Uh, and we, we wanna reflect that in the academy, that that’s a really, really big.
Um, uh, point that the administration and, and missions makes to us in terms of, you know, going out there and selecting, you know, high quality young men and women who are gonna represent the academy, uh, and the cloth of the nation really to its fullest. Um, so that’s really what we look for. So, For me, I would always say, um, you know, if you’ve got an interest in, you know, active duty, but you’re not quite sure, or you do have an interest in active duty in certain branches, um, we can provide those options if you have, uh, an interest of.
You know, obviously making very, very good money post-graduation. You know, we’re certainly, uh, an option to explore, uh, if you want a different experience that other people might be beginning at college again, similar sort of thing, you know, we can offer that. And I think that young men, and I’ll just choose men because of, because obviously we’re talking about men’s soccer program.
I think young men who play high level soccer, They like to compete and I think they like to compete on and off the field, and I think we will provide that platform for [00:24:00] them. Uh, what we, what we do say is, um, comings the academy. You have to come in with a blue collar attitude, you know, and, and, and an attitude where you’re gonna help others because, You know, the saying that the academy is a rising tide lifts or boats, you know, we, we help each other get through it and there’s gonna be things that you come in and do, which you’re amazing at, and you are gonna expect to help your fellow classmates and there’s gonna be things that you might struggle with and your classmates are gonna expect to help you.
Um, and, and I think that that runs true throughout the academy.
Matt: Awesome. Well, Coach, wish you the best of luck with the rest of the season and, and hopefully you can get, uh, make sure you get those guys there, two and four, uh, to the national tournament and uh, we’ll keep an eye on you and if you ever get down to any of the tournaments down here in Florida, gimme a shout.
Coach: Will do.
Matt: Appreciate my thank you coach.
