Southern Utah University Women’s Soccer – Coach Kai Edwards

On today’s episode, I speak with Coach Kai from the Southern Utah Women’s Program. We talk about he focuses on the return on his investment when picking tournaments to visit. He describes how he looks for players with functional dominance. Lastly, we discuss how his coaching style focuses on doing what the game needs. Learn more about Southern Utah University.

Matt: [00:00:00] Hi everybody. Welcome to discover college soccer today. I’m lucky enough to be joined by coach Kai Edwards out in Utah. Welcome coach. 

Coach: Thanks. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 

Matt: Yeah. Thanks for being here. Excited to talk to you. Uh, Southern Utah university women’s program. Um, you’ve been there a couple of years now, but you know, you and I were talking here end of March, it’s kind of.

The height of, uh, the showcase season and, and, and rolling things up. And so where are you guys at like right now in terms of with your wrapping up your class, 24s, 25s, kind of what’s your normal timeframe? What’s that looking like these days? 

Coach: Yeah, the way I do things and I’ve kind of evolved, uh, for the times with the times against the times, um, you know, I think a little bit of the open ended we’re never done.

Um, You know, if the best player in North Carolina wants to show up, I’m sure we, we would find room somewhere. Um, there are definitely players, we have strong belief in them and, and their backup and, uh, the burden of proof to replace them this late is very high, you know, but there’s also. So spots that after a couple of spring games, you know, you, you have questions on, on their development and challenges and what they’re going to do.

Right. And we have a very tough spring schedule. So a lot of things are being exposed, either good or, or not as good. But, yeah, we’re, we’re. Never, never, never, and always right. So [00:01:30] we’re never always done. And we’re never sort of still going, you know, and, um, coming from our region, especially, you know, there’s always injuries and homesickness is and things like that.

But we have, you know, a couple, couple special things to our, our region that probably happened more than other regions. You know, we have, um. Last year, I think 3 of my strikers were married already, you know, as sophomores and juniors. Um, you know, so some want to play 4 years, finish their 5th year. Some only want to play 3 and start a family.

Um, you know, so that unpredictable kind of, kind of, you never know when you’re, when you’re done or when you’re going, you know, and, you know, we have, we have a student athlete right now going on a mission. Her, her church mission and, uh, I think it is. Um, she’s been gone for 9 months. We’ll be coming back next January.

Um, you know, we have another 1 leaving the summer to Houston for her mission. So, it’s hard to ever say you’re done or this when. You know, many factors to the, that conversation. 

Matt: Sure. Well, when you look at your roster, you’ve got a nice mix predominantly, you know, not surprisingly West of the Mississippi players, um, that sort of thing.

So what are some of the tournaments, the places you like to see to, to, or places you like to go to see players? 

Coach: Yeah. So it’s always interesting. So, um, I’m a big quality control. Person and analysis of things. So every year or two I go back and look. All right So of the players we emailed on june 15. How many are [00:03:00] on our roster and and currently I think we have two so um of the people from this event, how many have we Are on our roster.

How many did we get on campus for visit? How many did we like stuff like that? So it’s a constant analysis of maximizing, um, recruiting dollars in acquisition of talent, um, and assessing what did, what was the return on investment? Either time or money for production of recruiting. Right. And, you know, we can’t say, okay, well, we’ve always gone to this tournament.

Well, what, what did it yield our program, you know, and maybe it yielded something else and other programs does that and maybe not for that. So we’re constantly analyzing, you know, we look at our roster now. I mean, we have G. A. You know, Utah state players, um, we have us YS are arguably best striker. We only saw on video at a high school games because it was during covert.

Um, we have junior college players that are American. We have junior college players that are internationals. We have, uh, a D two transfer. We have an international freshmen that we saw at a camp. We, I mean, we, we have. A local early enrollee that came to our camp with a freshman early [00:04:30] enrollee that we never saw at an event.

We only saw her at two of our camps. Like, so, for me, I think being able to be focused and where you recruit and why, but also not be so rigid. Right? So there’s that big challenge of, yeah, everyone’s going to the Florida tournament. Okay, well, half the teams in Florida tournament are from the east and we don’t get many players from the east.

So we’re going to spend 3, 000 every year. So 12, 000 over four years to maybe get two people to visit. Is that the best for our dollar? Right? So we always have to constantly analyze, um, the process to get things and what is the outcome coming from things. 

Matt: No, I think that’s just a great insight that a lot of folks don’t realize, you know, how much you really do need, need to check that ROI as a college coach with, with your recruiting events.

And, you know, there’s too many events these days that call themselves recruiting events. Showcases. And then there might be two colleges there and there’s a reason. Uh, so, well, you mentioned camps. Um, I think ID camps have really become a, you know, a key component for a lot of schools. How important are they to you guys?

Do you do your own, do you work others? What does the ID camp situation look like for you guys? 

Coach: Yeah, we have camps on campus. We have 2 in the summer. Uh, we have a winter camp satellite that we run in Salt Lake. Um, that’s sold out for the last 3 years. It’s been awesome. We run it in Salt Lake. We, last [00:06:00] year, I think we charged 25 for an hour and 40 minutes, uh, max 50 kids.

And two other colleges there. It’s great. Now, are we going to be set on you after those, but no, you probably didn’t spend much money at 25, but a couple of those kids were like, all right, we’re going to the Vegas tournament two weeks. Now we have to go watch them there. Right. So it was great for all. I mean, Anyone who can do math after renting an indoor facility and times in 50 times 25.

We’re not getting rich Off that camp and we had to get there and stay in a hotel ourself So we’re not making much off it, but we make a little but it’s not making us rich It’s for us to see players. The thing I I like about camps is if you have questions you you ask right? So Can this kid play in tight space?

All right. We’re playing four V twos and a 12 by 12 grid. Let’s play an eight, eight, eight by eight grid. You know, uh, let’s finish the, the warmup with, um, buildup sprints. Let’s see, let’s see where we’re at. Right. Let’s, uh, let’s, you know, let me kick this ball in the air. Can you head a ball? Right. So, I mean, you can ask questions, you can, you can manipulate and adjust matchups.

In my love of the 11, a small side of games. Okay. I think this kid’s going to struggle at pure pace. Okay. Let’s find the fastest kid in camp and put her against each other. Um, you know, how strong is this kid? What’s her decision making under high pressure? Well, let’s put someone who’s going high pressure and, um.

So I love that part and you kind of interact, you know, I’m I’m in [00:07:30] training the moment. I’m probably pretty intense often I would I’d like to call myself, you know, joking and and corny and and uh, sarcastic at times So, you know, it’s fun to see who can you know You know, has common sense or can, you know, joke around a bit and then go to war because that’s what we’re going to do here at practice.

Um, I don’t do a tremendous amount. I have a two year old and a four year old, so I don’t do a tremendous amount of outside camps myself anymore. Um, I do some usually for clubs and, and locals of like friends that I’ve done for years, um, but my staff does a lot of them. My staff, uh, they don’t have kids right now, so, you know, they do a lot of the one day camps and fly out to places in Arizona and Colorado and, uh, Stephen was at Monroe Community Colleges in New York last year and, um, stuff like that, you know, Salt Lake, ODP camp, everything.

You know, so they, they do a little more of the camp traveling, uh, than I do. 

Matt: Well, whether it’s at a camp or one of the events you’re going to or anything else like that, you kind of brought up a few of them, but, but what makes up the, the hierarchy of things that you’re looking for, whether that’s on the field attributes or off the field stuff.

Coach: Yeah. Uh, I would say off the field, but you’re looking for good people, obviously, because in the end, we’re going to spend a lot of time together. You might get stuck next to me on a plane. Can we, can we joke? Are you just going to like stare at the wall and put your headphones on? Um, You know, on the field for me, I used to phrase accountability to the [00:09:00] pursuit of perfection, right?

That doesn’t mean you have to be perfect, but you have to pursue it, right? And you have to be accountable to the pursuit. If you cross the ball out of bounds, I can get over it. If on Monday you’re on the field training 10 minutes before and Wednesday you’re doing again and the next week and for four months you’re accountable to your actions, the pursuit of getting it right, right?

Doesn’t mean you have to get it right, but you have to pursue it. Um, And then for me, I look for functional dominance. What, why are you on the field in the last 15 minutes of the game? 1 0 0 0 0 1. You know, are you great at heading? Are you great? Do you have a flip throw? Are you fast? Can you score a goal?

Do you have a final pass? Can you defend 1v1? You know, I’m a Manchester United fan. Everyone keeps trying to, to get rid of Wanda Saka until he has to defend a top winger. And then they’re like, well, we’ll keep him. When it’s 20 minutes ago, we know he’s going to lock him down in the wing, right? And Bruno’s going to get subbed off because he can’t defend if we’re up, up 1 0, right?

So I, I think it, I look for functional dominance. You know, I think, um, Jack of all trades are important on your team. Um, But I think at some point in games and in moments of game, they get beat out by specialists, right? And because usually if coaches and we have a lot more power in college to sub and, and read the game, well, if our team can’t keep possession up front, we’re going to try to find someone who has the ability to keep possession up front.

Someone who has, that’s their specialty, right? You know, [00:10:30] you look at football, what happens at the end of a game, right? Down, down by seven with 10 seconds going to kickoff, you put the all hands team on, you put the specialists on to win the game, you put the the battlers to blow it up to make it right. So finding kids who do things special.

And I think one of the challenges of women’s soccer. Yes. And I’ve because you’ve soccer for years too. Yes. Many women’s soccer players, you know, what, what don’t you do? Well, they’ll give you 50 things. I left, but heading, uh, I need to make quicker decisions. Let it be a hundred things. Okay. Give me three things you pride yourself on that you’re great.

Matt: Well, 

Coach: okay. Then if you don’t know, are not bold enough to say it, why would I put you on the field? So I always think whenever players analyze their game, you need to have three things you did well at a game or practice three things you did poorly, right? Everyone. Oh, I got to go get better. Yes. Getting better means I better my things I need to work on, but then I have to better the things I’m good at.

Right? So we look for that. 

Matt: Love it. Absolutely love it. Um, well, in terms of, Your roster, we talked about you, you guys have junior college players, you’ve got international, some, some transfers, what those, those three areas I like to call, you know, the non traditional, uh, pools of, of candidates for, for a lot of folks.

So [00:12:00] how important are they to your overall recruiting? How has the transfer portal changed things for you guys, whether that’s inbound or outbound and, and how much is international at play? What does all that look like for you guys? 

Coach: Yeah, and it’s funny. So our spring game and I tweeted about this where our spring game last year and one of our team values is diversity, right?

And inclusion. So I think our roster, uh, shows that, right? It’s, it’s not 1 way to get here. Right? And it’s not 1 way to stay here. But even with that said, I think we started 7 quote unquote homegrown players, uh, in our last game, you know, it was like 6 or 7 homegrown. You know, they could have been seniors, but starting here as freshmen, right?

And it was like 3 internationals and are 2 J. C. and 1 to 4 years or whatever it was. Right? So there’s still a homegrown base with a diverse approach. You know, and I think. You know, having that is great. You know, our. Our team doesn’t have to travel to Japan for spring break to learn about Japan. We have 2 players from Japan on our roster, so it diversifies them.

So our ability to grow as a group, I think, is larger than a group. That’s all from the same city, same region and same experiences. Right? I’ve been at universities like that. Now, their strength is they all. Have the same appreciation for an ocean, a mountain, a beach, uh, uh, they all played CIF, they all went to the same leagues, whatever, you know, but there’s a cap when, when you all have the same experiences.

I think our, our cap is much higher because of the [00:13:30] different branches we have. Um, so I think all levels are important. Uh, the homegrown player is very important and we have a good group of those players. Um, I think, you know, You know, 1 of our junior college players was like, well, how much do I owe you for the uniform?

Nothing. Almost pride. And it was like, oh, where are we stopping for the game? Uh, McDonald’s or Arby’s. We’re going the night before and we’re going to boot. Could have been like, wait, what? Right. So they get a different approach. Do we get to keep the cleats? Yes. Right. So I think having that, you know, uh, the, our division two player was on a final four as a starting, starting player, you know, now she’s come from a high level, but she also has a different appreciation for folks, you know, we’ve had a pack 12 players and stuff like that.

So, uh, it just lends the conversation, um, you know, in the international side, we have France, Canada, French speaking Madrid, Spain, uh, next year, New Zealand. Japan, you know, so they all just bring such, such different cultures, which, which makes it fun. I think we speak something like 8 languages fluently on our team, uh, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, French, Spanish.

Italian, German, you know, it’s fun. Like, on our team, if you can’t say hi and bye in 4 different languages after a year, you chose to not want to learn. Right? So I think that’s awesome. The interesting thing about the Transfer Portal and people make such a big deal about it. And and the one time transfer.

[00:15:00] Well, the reason why it’s such a big deal is because it became new to football and basketball. You have always been able to 1 time transfer and suffering and there’s always a release. Now, it’s just a public, but before I’m old enough to get a fax from a kid from a university that says the coaches released you from the school from this school to your school.

So, like, it’s always been there. It’s just more public. So, and I think it’s 1 of those, you can complain about it. Are you, or you can be great in it. And our goal is to be great. And every, I think of it as the same thing is, you don’t want to put all your money in stock, right? You want your money in stock, real estate, everything, right?

Diversify your portfolio. Yeah. And then be great in each portfolio, right? With something that’s your base that you can always rely on. Our base is homegrown. So that’s will always be our base. It’ll be our strongest group of kids. I say always now, but you never know. Never, never, never, and always. Right? If the times change, you got to change, but we diversify our portfolio 4 year, 2 year internationals.

So our portfolio is diverse. So we never fully depend on 1 group. But we do have a core group, but then we have diversity and that’s how you create power. 

Matt: Love it. Love it. Well, let’s shift gears. Talk a little bit about the school. I’m sure there’s some folks out there not familiar with, with Southern Utah.

You’ve been there for a year, right? 

Coach: I mean, I found it when I got here. 

Matt: Well, so you’ve been here a few years now. What, what are some of the things that you found that are awesome about the school that you love about the school? [00:16:30] Maybe some things we wouldn’t even know just by going through the website.

Coach: Yeah. Southern Utah university is a nickname is a school of natural or national parks. Uh, we have the most national parks within two hours of any university in the country. Uh, Zion’s 20 minutes from our door, uh, you know, grand canyons, two and a half hours, Moab. Three hours, Bryce canyons, 30 minutes ski resort, 25 minutes.

I mean, we have everything you want to hike. You want to kayak, you want to whatever outdoors is the outdoor university. Uh, we’re at 6, 000 feet, I think third or fourth highest division one in the country. Um, but it’s, it’s like, I lived in Michigan, like the snow doesn’t sit there. Like it’s sunny. It’s something like 280 days to sun a year, still cold, but it’s sunny.

So the snow melts. Um, and then it’s almost like a microclimate with 40 minutes from St. George, which is more desert. It’s Vegas type weather. So, like, it could be 115 there and 90 here. And then in the, in the winter, it could snow here, and it’d be 60 and a light drizzle there. So, 40 minutes away, you can, you can always change.

I call it a medium sized school. I call it a big private school, even though it’s a public school. It’s about 10, 000 people or 000, but it’s in a town of 30, 000. so it’s a university town. Uh, the school, the university is the biggest employer in the county by far. Um, so, so you [00:18:00] get that small. Small school, small school feel, but you also get the biggest school field is you’re, you’re the red, you’re the red in town.

Right? So I love those parts. You know, there’s a great map on the school website. That, like, I tell people from San Diego, so, you know, we’re closer to you than Sacramento. It’s. And they’re like, I go, you got to go through 2 states, but we’re still closer to make a right, make a left, get on the 15 and go straight.

Right? So there’s a map that shows. Dizzy, like 6 hours. L. A. 7. 5 San Diego. 7. 5 to 8. All the national parks within three. You know, for those things, it’s absolutely amazing. I’ve never seen someone come here and not like it. I’ve seen people come here and not love it. Because, you know, if you’re a beach person, there’s nothing I can tell, tell you about it to like it, but no one’s ever stepped foot in this town in this county and said, I don’t like it cleanest university I’ve ever been to.

There’s no graffiti. There’s no gangs in that region. Like, I now have a daughter, like, if I have a daughter and they were like, I’m going to Southern Utah University I’d sleep well at night. 

Matt: Well, I do, I got two of them and one, one who’s looking at schools. So that’s good. That’s a good, good endorsement.

Well, let’s, let’s roll back to, let’s say October, you know, you’re in the heart of that conference season. Can you give me a few or walk me through what a typical week’s going to look like for your players? Like when our games, classes, practices, uh, all that kind of stuff. What’s a [00:19:30] normal week look like?

Coach: Yeah. In general, our conference place Thursday, Sunday. So we have Monday off. And they’ll do recovery. Most of them have class, uh, recovery, ice baths, or we do contrast baths, whatever they want to do. We don’t talk to them. We try not to talk to them. Try not to see them on Monday. Uh, Tuesday, uh, review of film.

We send them the film usually late Monday night or Tuesday morning. Um, from the game on Sunday, uh, we have. The huddle suite. So we have huddle. We have sports code game breaker. We have why scout. We have every everything they have we have, um, which is awesome. So we’re able to deliver, uh, all video tool in small portions and what we want them to see with graphics.

And then they could watch it, send us notes on that. We don’t meet in person if they want to. We can. Some people are required. Sometimes we do it in functional groups. Strikers come with me. Let’s look at these three clips. Um, then we trained on Tuesday for about two hours. They left for about 45 minutes.

They have class, uh, Wednesday we usually do functional groups. So I’ll take the strikers, the midfielder, attacking mid, Steven takes all the mids and backs. Jim takes the goalkeepers, separate on the field. We work tactical, technical, tactical, functional on something specific and a review of the match. And it’s something specific that will help them for the next batch.

This team, the right back, over shifts. This is how we’re going to beat them. This is the space we’re going to look to exploit. Um, train in bed, play at full speed for 20 minutes. Thursday match. And class [00:21:00] Friday played over 40 minutes. You’re off and you’re doing recovery, yoga, stretching, whatever. Uh, if less, you’re going to play high intensity game, whatever that is, 66, 77 for about 20 minutes at pace, replicating Thursday match, uh, review of film, um, of the day before Saturday.

We talked about the Sunday opponent light training, go, go through the match. Uh, Sunday, Saturday night, pre game meal, Sunday, pre game meal, Sunday play, repeat. 

Matt: All right. Let’s, uh, let’s talk a little bit more about the on the field side of things as, as we kind of just did. We, we’ve talked about your roster, but is there, is there a roster size that you feel is ideal that you’re trying to be at each year?

Coach: I would love to be at 27, 23 field players, four goalkeepers. That would be my goal. But like I said, you know, we have two injuries, you know, so now we’re at 29, you know, we have a kid who was supposed to go on a church mission who didn’t, but we like, you know, so we end up with 31, 32 every once in a while.

But our goal is 70 or 27 to probably 32 is our goal, uh, with three to four being goalkeepers. 

Matt: Well, and you’ve mentioned names already, but the other part of the roster is your staff. So, you know, how many staff do you have? What roles does everybody kind of focus on? And what other support staff maybe, uh, help with the team that are, you know, other athletic department staff, that kind of thing.

Coach: Yeah. We have Steven. He was with, I was with him. I was actually the volunteer. He was the paid assistant at Oakland university and [00:22:30] Michigan. Uh, brought him here. He volunteered 1st and became assistant now associate head coach, which is unbelievable. He’s well earned it. So, um, we were big on disc assessments here.

The behavioral testing, um, I’m a high functioning D and in. In the soccer field, I’m a C off the field, so we kind of have another 1 of those Stevens and I, so it creates a balanced gyms to see. So it’s good balance of our staff. So he’s in charge of recruiting. Um, he’s in charge of all on campus visits. Um, databasing, uh, the back line and holding mid.

Um, in general, and then other duties as assigned, um, and then Jen is a volunteer, but works her butt off. Uh, she works as hard as she, she can, uh, she does the goalkeeping, helps with defensive set pieces, um, some parts of scouts, team meals, organization, stuff like that. She’ll be great. She’ll be, she’ll be a powerful assistant in the coming years, 100%.

Um, and then Leah’s are. Grad assistant, who we use as a director of software operations. So she does all team meals, all organization, all scheduling, all flights, hotels, everything. We have Dustin, uh, who’s a 2nd goalkeeper coach. He’s a local in town coaches like you 12. um, so they both kind of chain the goalies and always around.

You know, if the goalie needs an extra training, Dustin’s also just a great guy, uh, and a local who’s, who’s quality, um, and then Amy, we use as a development person, coaches a U13 team in town, [00:24:00] was two blocks from the field. Uh, she’s just that person who’s around and one of the student athletes seem to have a conversation about life, about anything, like she, she doesn’t coach them, but anything about life or managing, uh, stressors or life.

She, she’s just a good human with three kids and knows how to handle life. So it’s just good people to have around. Uh, we have Kayla Kovar, who’s our academic advisor, helps with scheduling classes, setting up tutors, study hall. Um, currently our, our trainer just left for another job, but we’ll get a new full time athletic trainer who’s at every practice, every game.

And then we have Coach I, who, who’s our strength coach. So that’s, that’s kind of our direct support staff around our team. 

Matt: No, it sounds like a, like a great staff, but you know, you being the man at the top, uh, gotta ask about your coaching style, uh, style of play you’re looking to implement there. What’s that like?

Coach: Yeah, I just scream a lot and hope. No, just kidding. Um, so, uh, you know, I’m a Libra, so I think of myself as a balanced scale. So, um, I think there’s a time where you have to get on a kid and I think there’s a time where you have to, you know, give him a hug and make him feel good, right? So, you know, there’s games when we play BYU, they don’t need me up and yelling, there’s already enough stress and, and emotion in the game.

And we, Confidence for me, you know, and then, right. So I think it’s understanding moments for me and, uh, adjusting to the demand of the moment. You know, it’s like, well, we tell them on the field, don’t do what you want to do, do what the game needs you to do. So there’s moments I, you know, I might not want to do something, but like, I’m not that fun loving of a guy, but [00:25:30] we’re going to start, you know, Uh, the beginning of training today with a tag game.

This is fun. Um, and just get them going. It’s cold outside. Just get, you know, there’s a game tomorrow. Take the pressure off of thinking of the game. They’re prepared. Let’s do something right. What the game needs. So I think of myself that way, you know, how do we like to play? I’m not a big system guy. I used to be super Dutch, uh, person.

Um, I’m not a big system on the principles of play, so we break everything down in the numbers, 1v1, 2v1, 2v2, 3v3, all the way, 4v4, maybe 5s is probably the biggest numbers we ever truly talked about, because I believe the game is small numbers. Um, you know, yes, there’s 11 on the field, but my right back and left foot.

Left, you know, right back and left wing don’t need to be that coordinated to each other. Uh, they don’t watch the same film, anything, you know, so we do everything in pod, so it allows us to change formations if we want, because it doesn’t matter the analysts analyzing my team has to look at it as well.

What’s the situation. Well, I’m defending one person in this part of the field, I’m attacking and there’s two of us and two of them. In this part of the field, the formation doesn’t matter. It’s the principle and standard of play is kind of how we coach. So we, we coast to understand numbers and, uh, exploit space.

Matt: Awesome. Well, you’ve been super generous with your time. Don’t want to keep you here too long, but one last question though, if, if you. Could boil it all down into one piece of advice, one nugget of info that [00:27:00] you think any college prospect, you know, should know, what would that be?

Coach: Showcase camp or showcase either one. Has somehow morphed into a phrase that as an excuse to not perform well, because it doesn’t matter. College coaches can’t teach people how to win and want to win moments of the game. Doesn’t have to be the full game, moments of the game when they get to college. The moment you step foot at a camp or a showcase or a game, you are asking to be judged.

You are taking the test. You do not take your math test without studying and doing homework. So if you, and it’s the old lawyer phrase, don’t ask questions. You don’t already know the answer to. So if you’re going to go to a camp or showcase, be physically, mentally, technically, tactically prepared. If you’re going to send emails, coach, come watch me.

Well, you’re asking to be judged. You’re asking for the test. So be prepared for the test. By creating a system before that and a process to train, to be prepared. Okay. You’re going to Arizona top and be more fit. Conditions exploit the people that already have a weakness. If you’re fit, doesn’t [00:28:30] matter if it’s hot, humid, dry, cold, you’re fit.

Right. So when you are asking to be judged, be prepared by doing what it takes before. And to be honest, 90 percent of the time, all the time you’re spending sending emails for people to watch you play. Uh, If you went out and trained at an intense level with yourself and one other person, you’d probably improve more and get seen better.

Matt: All right, coach. Love it. Really appreciate your time. Uh, hopefully you’ll, you’ll think that coming down to the Florida ECNL and Lakewood ranch is worth it. So then we can actually hang out and, uh, grab a cup of coffee in person. 

Coach: A hundred percent. It helps my skin too. It’s really dry here. 

Matt: Yeah, there you go.

All right. Well, thank you much, coach. We’ll talk soon. 

Coach: Thanks. Go T Birds.