Ripon College Men’s Soccer – Coach Marco Rhein
On today’s episode, I speak with Coach Marco from the Ripon Men’s Program in Wisconsin. We talk about his focused recruiting and how he prefers seeing league games over showcase games. He describes their school’s recent investment in athletic facilities. Lastly, we discuss how he manages their roster with their reserve games. Learn more about Ripon College Men’s Soccer.
Matt: [00:00:00] Hi everybody. Welcome to Discover College Soccer. I’m lucky enough today to be joined by Coach Marco from Ripon in Wisconsin. Welcome coach.
Coach: Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Matt: Yeah, thanks for being here. Uh, excited to chat. So it’s June 14th. Uh, you know, for, for division three schools, not, uh, not that big of a deal, but, uh, for a lot of kids, tomorrow’s gonna be a big deal.
But, uh, yeah. In terms of the recruiting calendar, I’m guessing you’ve, you’ve wrapped up the 20 threes and your hard at work on the 20 fours, but, uh, can you just gimme an overview of what. Your typical recruiting calendar looks like when you’re talking to what classes and how far out you’re, you’re talking to people and what, just, what that kinda looks like.
Sure.
Coach: Yeah. So for, for me, uh, we, we normally start, for example, for our 24 class. We start about February. Uh, we’re starting to collect names probably, um, You know, the, the fall before and then, uh, more formal contact begins with that class, February and into March. Um, and I’m pretty, I mean, I know every coach is a little bit different.
I’m a little bit, uh, With, with my recruiting and kind of the way I, the way I communicate with athletes and, and their families, uh, and work through the process, um, we, we really, we try to identify guys early and basically just give ’em a checklist of, here are the things that we expect you to be doing. We, during this evaluation process, while, while we’re working with you and as we progress into the summer, um, You know, at this point we’ve, we’ve already started to cut our pool down pretty [00:01:30] significantly.
Um, I’d say probably we’ve cut out 30 to 40% of the guys that we had started with in, in February. And, uh, as we, we kind of come into the fall, then, uh, that’s when we’re gonna, we’re gonna start pushing offers on guys and getting guys starting, starting to visit and things like that. And, and generally we wrap classes up, um, from a timeline perspective.
Last two years, we, I’ve been very happy to be almost done by January. You know, of course there’s always a couple guys you’re still working with, you know, into February and even even March. But, um, generally, yeah, January and, and by May, by February one, we’re, we’re mostly done with our class.
Matt: Okay, well, you know, you and I were talking about your location there before the call there in the Midwest.
Yep. So in terms of events and, and places you like to go, recruiting kind of what’s on your hit list to, to make sure you get to each other?
Coach: Yeah, that’s a, that’s a really good question. Um, I think when I first started I was everywhere. Like just, you know, driving and driving and driving. I started in 2019 and, and as.
I, uh, over the last couple years I think I’ve refined that a little bit. And so, um, I spend a lot of time in the Chicago area at all of the, the state and President Cup events there. Um, Rockford Raptors host a lot of events that I go down to cuz it’s an easy drive and there they always attract a lot of the top teams there.
Libertyville hosts a lot of great events. F c United hosts a lot of great events, galaxy, um, so we spend a lot of time at their showcase stuff, um, in the Milwaukee area. Uh, we always head down FC [00:03:00] Wisconsin and Germantown hosts a lot. Uh, so I, I spend a lot of time over there. Um, uh, they have E C N L teams and, and Midwest regional teams, so it’s really nice to, to go and see the athletes in those areas.
And then in Wisconsin here, um, Our State Cup and President’s Cup are, are hosted just like about an hour from our school, so that’s really nice for me. Um, and then throughout the rest of the year, I mean, those are all pretty spring oriented ideas, you know, and things, or late spring, early summer. I really like the games.
I think that’s a, a thing that’s a little bit different than like a lot of, a lot of coaches, a lot of coaches wanna do showcase where they’re going to, uh, really big, you know, showcase events where there’s tons and tons of teams. Um, And, and maybe I’m wrong with it. I think the quality sometimes is like kind of poor in the showcases cuz they’ve got the kids playing, you know, three games in three days or, or sometimes more than one game in a day.
And, um, and I, I think it’s just hard to really know, like you really see guys. And, and then I think the last piece too with that is I’m pretty targeted with who I’m going to see. So, um, you know, when I go to a showcase, Of course you’re gonna try to find a lot of different guys, but, but a lead game, I’m going to see one guy or two guys.
It’s not, it’s not scouting in the fa in the sense that I’m trying to find somebody I’ve never seen before. It’s scouting in the sense that I know this guy’s good and I wanna know more about him. Um, so that’s kind of how I tend to do my, my recruiting and my scouting. Okay.
Matt: Well you mentioned that that.
[00:04:30] Just seeing you’re going to see people, you know, or you’re focused. So in terms of if you’re at a showcase event or, or a bigger event, kind of tell me about how that works for you in terms of how much of it, what’s maybe the percentage of players you’re going to see? Cuz you know, or you, you’ve, you’ve, they’ve reached out to you or they’re on your radar versus.
Uh, you know, divine intervention of just gonna see a game of, uh, of two teams and finding somebody there.
Coach: Yeah, it’s probably 50 50. I, I think that that’d be reasonable to say. Um, I hate to jump on the fence on that question, but it’s probably 50 50, um, half the guys, uh, as you, you mentioned getting on the radar.
Right. And I think that, um, and I, I, I tell this to, to players all the time and, and I’ve been invited by clubs to talk about. Um, the college search process. I’ve gone to high schools and one of the first things I always say is, is, is be an advocate for yourself, right? And, and, and make sure that you’re sending out emails and sharing highlights and texting coaches and, um, you know, some, some coaches are maybe a little less receptive to that, but I, I think the good, the good coaches, that’s what they want.
You know, they wanna develop a relationship, they wanna hear who you are and, and how you’re pro, how you’re progressing. So, um, yeah, we definitely have guys like that. And then of course, you know, you go to a. Go to a match or a showcase or whatever, and you watch guys play. And, um, and of course you’re trying to identify talent, right?
And, and sometimes you’re lucky enough to find a guy, a, a diamond in the rough or a guy that, um, you know, is, is really interested in playing [00:06:00] at the next level. And, and sometimes you find guys that aren’t so, you know, aren’t, aren’t ready for that or don’t want to. And, and that’s just kind of how that goes.
Matt: Okay. Well, do camps and clinics fit into your recruiting process at all, whether they’re your own or do you guys work external camps? How does that look?
Coach: Yeah, that’s a good question. Um, we host a camp at the end of July, uh, every year. So this year it’s the 28th, it’s a Friday. And, um, so we, we host our own camp.
Um, and then I think this year we’ll do some indoor stuff. We have a nice indoor facility, so we’ll probably do some indoor stuff as well, uh, which we haven’t done before. Uh, generally, like this last year’s class, uh, we brought in, um, 10 guys and two of them were out of our, our camp. Uh, which is kind of cool, like, you know, to to, I always say for us camp, when we’re inviting guys, we, we don’t do like a huge widespread camp invite.
We invite guys that we know are really good and that we want right to get here. And so, uh, we always say for the, the guys that were inviting to camp, um, Of course it’s a chance for us to see you, but it’s more a chance for them to see us, like, see our facilities, see our staff, you know, meet some players, figure out what it’s like here, you know?
Um, and then in terms of external camps, uh, yeah, we, we, I, I do quite a few. Um, I. I have a pretty good relationship with, um, university of Wisconsin Madison coaching staff and the Green Bay coaching staff. And so they invite us to all their ID camps, um, sometimes in a working capacity and sometimes just in an observational capacity.
And, um, so we, we go to those every year and, um, a couple of ’em at [00:07:30] Madison, a couple at Green Bay as well.
Matt: Okay. Well, whether it’s camps, clinics, events, everything under the sun when you’re looking at players, What’s your hierarchy of things that you’re looking for, whether it’s on the field stuff or off the field stuff?
Coach: Yeah. Um, well, I think both those are really important. Uh, so I’ll start with, I’ll start with on the field stuff. Um, you know, the, the first thing I look for, especially when we’re talking attacking players, but, but defensive players as well, are players that take ownership of the match. And so guys that are trying to, to make plays, guys that are encouraging their teammates on the field, guys that are.
Have really high work rate, you know, and, and I think. Something that’s maybe a little different is I look for Dribblers a lot. It’s something I really like. It’s something I really value as a coach. Um, so you know, guys that aren’t afraid to try to take people on, guys that aren’t afraid to try to, to create in the box and create service and, um, even if they fail at that, I, I really value guys that, that wanna do those things.
Um, I think the, it’s a hard thing sometimes to evaluate, but I think recognition and understanding of space is really important to me, um, on both sides of ball. So for the attacking players, um, are they threatening to get in behind? Are they, are they working to create space off, off of, uh, the, the defensive players that are, uh, they’re playing against?
Um, you know, do they, do they recognize when it’s time to combine and when it’s time to, to take guys on? I think that’s important. And then on the defensive side, um, You know, I, I think kind [00:09:00] of when, when are, when are we pressing and when are we challenging for balls? And then when should we be dropping back and conceding some space?
And I know some of those things can be a little subjective, Matt, right? Like each coach kind of has a thing that they like more, or, but that’s something I definitely look for. And then, um, you said off the field stuff, uh, you know, I mean, I think it’s a people business. Uh, you know, you said you’re a coach as well.
I think you, you probably realize that coaches realize that more than anything else, that the people that you bring into your program, the people that you bring into your team, it’s the most important thing, probably even more important sometimes than the talent that you bring in. So, you know, good, good young men that, that, um, are hardworking, are respectful, have good communication skills.
You don’t have to be a 4.0 student, but you gotta have some, you gotta have some academic skills and some ambitions, right? With your life about what you’re excited about to do. And, um, and then I just think, I like to spend time talking with coaches about, about their guys too. Um, and just asking them, you know, like, who is this person more than, more so than who they are as a player because.
Um, you know, I have to kind of develop my, my own understanding of who they are as a player, but I, it’s really hard to get to know ’em as people before they get here. Right. So I think, yeah, I hope, does that kind of give you a feel? Those are kind of the things I probably search for.
Matt: No, absolutely. Yeah.
Well, let’s talk a little bit more about the, the school. I’m sure there’s some folks out there not familiar with, with rip. So you’ve got a unique uh, Experience that you could share with us as an alum and now a coach, so, sure. [00:10:30] Um, kinda what do you love about the school? What are some awesome things about the school?
Maybe some things we wouldn’t know just by going through the website.
Coach: Yeah, that’s a, that’s a great question. Um, you know, I think, I think Ripon’s a really interesting school in that. It’s always been very, very strong academically. Um, and I think if you rewind into the, you know, into the eighties, we, we, we really were people, people would compare us with like, High end, east Coast, Ivy League, you know, and like things like that, which is kind of wild.
And um, so it’s always been very strong academically. Um, what’s happened that I think has changed a lot in the last, I don’t know, five or six years, is the school has said, Hey, we’ve always been good academically. Now how can we. Add the athletic experience to that as well. And so that the way that went was in, in 2018, we built a new 25 million athletic facility that I’m sitting in now where all of our a, our, our offices are and gyms and a field house.
And it just, it’s beautiful. And right now across the street, uh, we’re building a new stadium about a 9 million project, which is turf and lights and team rooms built underneath. And I mean, it’s like, it’s dreamland and like you said, for me as an alum, I played here 2008 to 2012. Um, which feels like kind of a long time ago now, and, and we didn’t have any of those fancy things.
Right. And it’s, so, it’s really exciting and fun and, uh, we’re building a brand new 20 million science center right now. Um, and I, I don’t mean to sound like I’m trying to flex with all of our money, but for a small school [00:12:00] when there’s so much in investment in infrastructure going on, it’s super exciting.
Um, and quite honestly, it’s not the trend. If you look around the country right now with what’s happening with, with especially liberal arts schools. Um, so yeah, it’s, it’s a, a, a wonderful little city as well. Ripon is, uh, it’s cool, it’s really nice downtown with coffee shop and brewery and uh, and, and great restaurants and music venues and, and it’s all walkable to our campus.
So I think it creates a really positive college environment, especially for. People that are really focused on their academics and really focused on their soccer, you know, I think those, that’s, it’s really strong in those areas. Um, and then just in terms of like, things we’re good at, uh, most of the guys, not all, but most of the guys on our team are in pre-med, so that’s kind of the track that they go with or they go with that business track and, um, When our guys do business majors, most of them are double majoring.
Uh, we have a credit structure that lets our guys do that. It’s, it’s, uh, we don’t have a lot of required coursework basically. I won’t go into the weeds on it, but um, it allows them to do a lot. So we have a lot of guys doing like business econ or business communications, um, business finance, business sports management, something like that.
Uh, a lot of those guys then will minor. We push for a minor in data science. Normally with that. So that’s kind of been the, the combo. And then the pre-med thing is we’ve always had really strong science fields here. Um, I’m a former [00:13:30] biology major from the program here, and I’m somehow coaching college soccer now.
And, uh, we have really good placement rates in the med school. That’s why. So it just, it attracts a lot of of people that wanna go back route. Okay.
Matt: So yeah. Well, let’s, uh, let’s talk about kind of in-season schedule. What’s that look like? Sure. Uh, for a player, you know, your average week, w winter meals, classes, practice times, game cadence, all that kind of thing.
Coach: Yeah, great question. Um, so generally, uh, and of course as you know, the weeks change a little bit. We tweak, but we try to get ’em pretty structured. And so for our team, generally it’s uh, Wednesday match day and then Saturday match day. And so then we have to build everything around that. And that’s pretty standard for most colleges now.
I think everyone’s moving in that direction. Um, So what we’ll do is, uh, Mondays will be our strength and conditioning day. Uh, so we’ll, we have a full-time strength and conditioning coach on staff, which is really nice, uh, for us. So our guys will meet with, uh, meet with him for about a half an hour, 45 minutes.
It’s balance work, a little bit of agility, recovery, muscle maintenance, things like that. And then we’re out to the field, um, for a shorter session. We, we generally on Mondays do, um, just some technical work. It’s, it’s still. Technically, you know, two days post-match on a Saturday. It’s kind of recovery still for some of the boys.
Um, and then we’re into, uh, the classroom normally for just a, a short film recap of some of the film from the week before moving to Tuesday. It’s match prep day. So, uh, you know, we’ll, we’ll do, we normally start in the classroom then with a [00:15:00] little scout at the opposition, talking a little bit about the schedule so the boys know for travel.
Um, and then we’re out to the field for about an hour and 20 minutes. Um, we’ve got a couple. Four or five pretty standard sessions that we use for pre-match, um, to, to prep the boys. And then, uh, we move into Wednesday match day, uh, Thursday’s the only weird day for us because, uh, we will play some reserve games on Thursdays, so we might have, um, It’s the only time that we might kind of separate our team, right?
Where we’ll have some guys that played a lot of minutes Wednesday, they need recovery work. And then some guys that didn’t play so many minutes need, need to play, right? They need to compete. And so we’ll play reserve matches or we might even play inner squad scrimmages on Thursday with those boys. And then Friday is, uh, a prep day again, um, same schedule as Tuesday, Saturday match.
And then we, we do Sunday as our off day, um, in, in general. So, um, building around that then like with classes and, and things like that. Generally at rip. Uh, classes start at eight or nine in the morning and are done by about three. You know, and, and, uh, it depends a little bit. We’re pretty class heavy on Monday, Wednesday, Fridays, and we’re pretty class light on Tuesdays, Thursdays.
Um, and so, uh, we train four 30 to six 30 or once a week, maybe six 30 to eight 30 at the later slot. Um, we, we try not to do too much late stuff, just cuz I know a lot of the guys have tutoring or they have jobs or they have things like that that they’re doing in the evenings. And so we, we try to leave that slot open, but we schedule it all.
It’s all out by July, right? So our boys can, they can [00:16:30] schedule their things around it. They know what’s going on. Um, obviously our schedule’s gonna change a little bit, Matt, when the stadium’s finished because, uh, we’re gonna have another, a turf facility right across the street, two grass facilities right outside the building.
Um, so we have a lot to pick from. Uh, but we have to balance that with the football team and with the women’s soccer team. And so we, luckily, we have nice relationships in our department. Everybody’s really cool and everyone just sits down at a table together and says, how, how do we wanna make this work?
Matt: So, Good. All right. Well, you mentioned, you know, having a, a reserve team game and, and that kind of thing. So tell me about the roster size. What, what does that look like? What, what are you aiming for there on an average year?
Coach: Yeah. We, we target, um, 36 to 38 a year. And for me, I think it’s a little heavy in terms of numbers, uh, but.
The, the reality of it is the, is this, if we, we experimented when I first started here with about 30 players. And what we found was the guys that really get hurt in that situation are numbers 25 to 30 or 20 or 23 to 30, right? Because they’re the guys that probably aren’t gonna see the field that much during the season.
Maybe a little bit here and there. Um, but a lot of ’em are good players. Like they, they, they maybe are freshman or sophomore players or even, you know, or even junior players that are. Could and, and often do develop into players that are going to see minutes in our program. And so the issue was at 32, if you have, let’s say two or three injuries, you don’t have enough for a reserve match.
[00:18:00] You can’t, we can’t show up to a game even because we need to make sure we have 18 to 20 available for match day. And with the NCAA rules of 20 total matches that you’re allowed to play, including reserve, um, you can do the math. You start cutting a lot of guys out as available. And so what we did was we said, all right, we’re gonna carry a, a few more players and it’s gonna allow us to be consistent with those reserved matches.
And we’ve had guys, um, this last year we had, um, three freshman players that played the first. Three reserve matches, four reserve matches. Didn’t play the first three weeks of the season with, with the first team in a, in a match. And by the end of the season they were starting games. And so I think to me that’s really, really important, um, that, that we can, we can do that for a development and then b student athlete experience so that they’re being competitive and having fun with that.
Um, I think the, the big thing that I will say is, um, And, and we wanted to make sure we did this right. It was like we needed to make sure we had enough staff to support a team of, of that size. And we do now, uh, that was not the case when I first started here. We, we now have myself and four assistant coaches, uh, and two student managers.
So we have a, we have a bigger staff than a lot of division one programs, uh, which is kind of nice. Um, and the, and, and then we had to make sure that, you know, we had the resources for, for those athletes as well, um, that we have jerseys and that we have equipment. And we were very. Strict on this, everyone always trains together.
Okay? We, we do not, we’re not gonna, and a lot of schools do that where they’re saying, [00:19:30] okay, go away. Uh, you guys go away, go train over there. Right? And, and of course there’s, there might be a, a day on the Thursday, right? Where, well, there’s guys who are playing reserve games and there’s guys recovering, but, um, we want, we want that to be a, a, a, a a.
There’s there to be a good togetherness within the squad. Right? And, and I think that that’s a big piece. So everyone needs to train together and our staff needs to be able to evaluate everyone. That’s another big piece too, when it comes to reserve.
Matt: For sure. Well, talk to me about your, your style of coaching team, style of play.
What does that look like?
Coach: Sure. Uh, I’m. I guess I always, and my guys, um, my guys are funny. We do a lot of feedback with our players. I, I’m a very honest coach, uh, and I, I value professionalism within our program. I value relationships within our program, and so I. My guys get opportunities to provide feedback to our coaching staff throughout the year.
Um, my guys are funny. I, I think a couple years ago I, I, I did a, I did a survey with our boys and I said, Hey, what do you need more of? Right? And training and like 10 of the guys on the team, Matt, they wrote. We want you to yell more cuz I’m like pretty low key, right? I’m not, I’m not like a, I’m high energy, but I’m not a, I’m not a yeller.
It’s just not how I operate. And my, I remember I sat down with the group and I said, fellas, all these guys, they say they want me to yell more. I said, is that what you want from me or is that what you imagine college coaches to be like? Right. And they kind of like, after they thought about it, they thought, oh yeah, it’s more just what we imagined it to be like.
Or they [00:21:00] see a manager in the prem, right? Yeah. Screaming and it’s just not really who I am. I, I think. On match day, especially, uh, if I’m yelling a ton, um, then I probably haven’t done a good job prepping the boys for the match day. Uh, and, and of course sometimes you need to inject a little energy right?
To the boys. And I, I think that, that, that’s important. Um, but, but yeah, I, I don’t, I don’t do a lot of that. Um, I think from a style of per play perspective, and what I believe in as a coach is we, we want the ball. Uh, and we wanna attract the opposition into our space, and then we wanna play into those new spaces, uh, when we attack.
I know every coach says that today. I, I just like, that’s the same line. And so I really try to support that with some data. And, you know, if we, if you look at, at us this year, we out possessed and outpa every team we played in the middle, in the attacking third, uh, every team except two. Throughout the year and two, including matches that we lost and we led our league and goal scored.
Uh, and so I think there’s a reason for that, right? That, that we were, that we were, we possessed and, and utilized the ball in dangerous areas, right? It wasn’t just like we had a lot of passes, but we completed them in our back line and it wasn’t like we were progress. We like, we didn’t progress the ball.
Okay? I actually have pushed our guys, I think we could be more aggressive in the final third. I think we became a little too possession obsessed. Uh, you know, I want the ball, but. You have to have product. Uh, and so, um, defensively then, um, it depends a little bit on the, the team, I mean, that we’re playing [00:22:30] against.
Uh, we’ll, we’ll sometimes play a very high line and then sometimes we play more of a midblock with pressing traps. It depends a little bit on, on who we’re playing. Um, but we really, you know, when you think about like kind of prepping the guys throughout the week, we focus on ourselves a lot more than we do opposition.
And, and I think maybe at some point we’ll evolve a bit more to focusing on opposition, but I just really think at this level, the games come so fast that it’s really about about refining your product, refining what you do as a team, and focusing primarily on that. Of course, you need to know a little bit about the other team, um, but.
That’s kind of how, how we operate as a staff and, and um, and again, like I mentioned before, I’m really lucky to have a nice staff o of, um, you know, da David Scott’s, my, my first assistant. He’s, you know, a licensed coach, just got inducted in the Wisconsin Hall of Fame for soccer. I, I mean, it’s really nice to have people with the experience, you know, having a goalkeeper coach.
Having a coach that deals with a lot of the backroom stuff like film and, and statistics and, um, you know, having, having a coach, uh, that’s a young, you know, we have Charles Schultz who’s coming back, a young guy who had been on the team and. Knows some of the players, you know what I mean? Like those types of things for our staff to really develop a good relationship with our guys and, and give ’em what they need from a development perspective.
That’s been important to me as, as a coach. So yeah. That’s great Hope. Hopefully that kind of answers the question.
Matt: Yeah, absolutely.
Coach: I could go on and on all of our coaches, once you get us going right Matt, we could just talk and talk about what we do and how we do it so
Matt: Well, and you know what, that’s, that’s what keeps this, uh, podcast enjoyable for me to keep doing right.
[00:24:00] Is having these conversations. So, I mean, we’ve covered a lot of ground and we really appreciate all the time you’ve given us. I’m gonna end this with one question, and that’s, you know, if there was one piece of advice, one nugget that you wanna share with, Parents, players, anybody going through this recruiting process, what would that one thing you would want them to know be?
Coach: Okay. That’s a, that’s an awesome question. I actually just had this conversation with a, with a recruit on campus the other day and they had asked something really similar. Um, and I think my piece of advice is talk with a lot of coaches go to a ton of schools and I know that sometimes I think that.
Parents are surprised to hear that from me. They think that I’m gonna say, you don’t need to go anywhere else. You’ve looked here. This is the best school, so just commit here and come here. And I really, when I started coaching in 2019, I think I maybe thought that a little bit. I was nervous, oh no, they’re gonna go down the road to X or Y school and then they’re not gonna like me and they’re gonna go somewhere else.
And but, but now what I’ve found is the young men that go to. 10 different schools or five different schools, and they talk with a bunch of different coaches. Um, when they commit here, they’re really all in on the experience because they’ve done their research, they understand what we’re about. They’ve challenged me and other coaches with hard questions and, and when they get here, they understand the expectations.
And so then, then, They’re happy, they’re motivated, they’re excited. Uh, the families know what they’re getting into. Uh, they, they understand what’s, what’s happening here, and, and they really give themselves to our program, and they give themselves to [00:25:30] the experience, and they’re, they’re committed to their academics.
And I, I just think from a four year perspective, that’s the way to do it. I, I think too often the advice to young people, because we don’t know what to tell them about this experience, are things like, oh, when you go there, You’ll, you’ll just feel that, you’ll feel that it’s right. You know, you’ll get that feeling.
And I hate to say it, but it’s just, it’s not a Disney fairy tale, the college search process. Uh, you might get great feelings about, Hey, this coach is really nice, or This school is really great, but write those things down. Don’t just say that like, I felt good about it. Right? Uh, so that’s why that’d be my piece of advice is, is do your research.
Go to a bunch of places, talk to a bunch of coaches, advocate for yourself and, and you’ll, you’ll find a school that, that fits you well.
Matt: I appreciate that and that’s again, one of the reasons I did this podcast was so people can learn about as many schools as possible, even if they can’t get out to Wisconsin initially.
Hopefully for sure they’ll be able to, to hear this and uh, and get a good idea of saying why I should come visit and talk to Coach. For sure. So, awesome. Well, coach, really appreciate the time. Wish you the best of luck this upcoming season and if you get to any recruiting events down here in Bradenton, gimme a shout.
Coach: All right, will do. Thanks a lot, Matt. I appreciate your time. Thank you.
