Felician University Men’s Soccer – Coach Brandon Levine
On today’s episode, I speak with Coach Brandon Levine from the Felician University Men’s Program. We talk about his recruiting of both domestic and international players. He describes how their small, yet urban campus is unique and provides a lot of opportunity. Lastly, we discuss their offseason program and how he challenges his players. Learn more about Felician University Men’s Soccer.
[00:00:00] Matt: Hi, everybody. Welcome to discover college soccer today. I’m lucky enough to be joined by coach Brandon Levine from Felician University in Northern New Jersey. Welcome. Hey,
[00:00:09] Coach: Thanks for having me. I’m really excited to hear, too
[00:00:11] Matt: write everything. Yeah. Thanks for being here. Well, we’re, we’re gonna hear from you and, and really kind of dig into, uh, to what you guys are doing over there.
[00:00:18] Cause, uh, I think what I was just saying, I, I, you know, I’m actually not aware of Felician that, that, well, um, I’ve driven, uh, the turnpike right there through rougher Rutherford several times and been to the Meadowlands. But, uh, but that’s about it. So, uh, but you know, we’ll skip that, the geography stuff, people can find that on their own.
[00:00:38] Uh, but let’s talk more, uh, about the sports side of things and then the school side of things. So, uh, let’s talk recruiting first. So, you know, as division two, Tomorrow is the magic June 15th day. So I’m sure you’ve got your list ready as to, to whom you’re calling, but what, when do you really start looking at players, putting ’em on a list kind of, uh, wanting to see what they’re about?
[00:01:02] Coach: Yeah, I mean, it’s an exciting time, you know, this is kind of my first recruiting cycle, at the division two level prior to being in vision three, a coach. So definitely the timelines. Jump started, you know, accelerated, especially for the domestic guys. So, um, sophomore year, junior year, you know, that’s kind of the transitional phase where we’re starting to look fall sophomore year is when we start looking.
[00:01:19] And then we start, you know, obviously the contact, you know, kind of fall of the junior year, um, is really kind of our timeline where we get to know people, um, on a more personal versus, you know, Hey, is this kid a good kid? Is this kid a good student? So, um, it’s definitely an earlier phase, you know, for division two.
[00:01:34] And now that, you know, After COVID, it’s definitely a different timeline for everybody, but that’s generally our kind of beginning of the process, if you will. Yeah.
[00:01:41] Matt: That makes sense. Um, you know, just outta curiosity, how many inbound contacts do you think you get in? Let me know we’ll call it an average week.
[00:01:50] I know it ebbs and flows with tournaments and times a year and all that kind of stuff, but yeah, but just an idea of, of what you’re, you’re dealing with, of people that are contacting you, interested in the program.
[00:02:00] Coach: Yeah. If I’d average out per week, I mean, obviously at a division two level, we’re getting a ton of internationals between agencies and, um, you know, random ones as well.
[00:02:09] You know, if I had a rounded number, I would say generally around a hundred a week. Wow! You know, we’re, and that’s on a, that’s on a light week, you know, prior to, you know, some of the big fall events between Bethesda, you know, castle, EDP, PDA, all those kinds of events, you know, it’s generally gonna boost up a little bit and, and that kind of.
[00:02:26] What I found was that October, the kind of February phase for us, you know, between commitments and whatnot, we were getting a. And a lot of internationals, probably about a 60, 40 split front between internationals versus domestics. Um, so a lot of emails
[00:02:40] Matt: let’s talk. Well, let’s talk about internationals a bit, like, so how does that fit into your overall recruiting?
[00:02:45] Um, you know, kind of scheme and, and, and how tough is it for you cuz you know. I’m guessing Felician isn’t paying for you to, uh, go, go spend a week, uh, in Spain or something, but maybe I’m wrong.
[00:02:58] Coach: I wish you were wrong. If you were wrong, that’d be nice. Uh, no, but you know, every, every school at our level’s, you know, restricted budget-wise, division two individuals, one level, right?
[00:03:04] You can only go so many places and see so many kids on a serious note. So it’s one of those where, you know, obviously recruiting contacts. You know, prior players that you played with prior coaches, this, that, and the other thing you have to lean heavily on. I mean, we’re every person I wouldn’t, wouldn’t say division one level so much, but division two-level, you’re making scholarship offers site unseen.
[00:03:23] I mean, obviously between highlights and full match film, you’re trying to do your due diligence, but, um, Our international, you know, we have a couple of really good points of contact, a couple people I really trust. And I’m, I’m one of those people, I’m very much “what have you done for me lately” kind of person.
[00:03:37] So I trust these people until I don’t. Um, you know, it’s very much. I wouldn’t say it’s a crap shoot, but Hey, we’re, you know, we’re hoping we have a good eye. We’re hoping we see, you know, for us, for internationals, we’re seeing two to three full matches minimum. Before, you know, sending out any offers that are after highlight tapes, that’s after reference checks, that’s after transcripts, this, that, and the other thing.
[00:03:56] So, um, it’s a likely process, but you know, at the division two levels, if you look at, you know, the teams of all Americans, it’s 80% internationals, if not more. So, you know, the rules are there to set up for you to be successful internationally. So, um, we’re trying to do our best in that, uh, in that regard.
[00:04:13] Matt: Yeah. No, it makes sense. Um, well, In terms of domestic, you know, you mentioned some of the things P PDA, Bethesda, et cetera, where, where are those key places you like to go to make sure that, you know, you’re, you’re seeing whatever players you can.
[00:04:29] Coach: Yeah. I guess some of the unique situations, maybe some of other people in a similar situation, but I coach at Cedar Stars academy, um, and Bergen.
[00:04:35] So I’m at those events. I’m with the club team. So I’d like to say I have a little bit more of a grasp versus maybe some other people in terms of, you know, what’s out there. Um, you know, what the contacts are, what the best events are. Um, but for us, you know, and at the division two level, I’m living in, you know, 50 to 60 mile radius, generally with my domestic guys, um, between some of the big MLS academies, I mean, TSF, Cedar star Bergen, uh, Cedar Star’s mom at that U 19, we had three teams within a 30-mile radius qualify for MLS playoffs for next.
[00:05:07] Um, I don’t have to drive very far to see some of the best soccer in the nation. So I lean on the showcases, but I’m leaning on more of my, uh, my contacts coming in the surrounding areas.
[00:05:17] Matt: Well, what about camps? How do they fit into your overall recruiting? Are you doing any at your school? Do you work in other teams or camps?
[00:05:24] How does that kind of help you in your recruiting
[00:05:26] Coach: process? Yeah, you know, I’ve been on the job only trying to do the math, uh, not even a year. So it’s one of the situations where we haven’t gone into ID camps yet. There’s been so much, so many other, you know, you know, kind of things that have probably been prioritized before that, um, You know, I’m, I’m doing a couple of the big camps between future 500, um, um, you know, a couple, you know, you know, some of the exact camps, I’m sorry, a couple of them are probably escaping, but we’re doing some of the big events and a part, a part of it’s to get noticed.
[00:05:54] Yeah. Just like you said, when we opened the chat, Hey, Felician is not the biggest name school in the world and I’m not, there’s no hiding that. Yeah. It’s a matter of, Hey, can I get my name out there at the university level? Can I get my name out there as a coach and show that, Hey, somebody at this university knows what they’re talking about?
[00:06:07] Um, and a lot of these recruits are gonna trust coaches. You know, a lot of people choose locations based on coaches, even. Um, so you know, just about making those contacts and I’m not even worried about the networking with other coaches on board or so about when I go to recruiting events, I wanna recruit, you know, a lot of people do other things, um, and, you know, have a lot of chats Chit chat and stuff like that.
[00:06:25] I’m there too, I’m there to go to work and try to meet as many kids as I can and put as many business cards in good people’s hands as possible. That’s great.
[00:06:33] Matt: Um, well when you’re at camps or when you’re at these, uh, other tournaments and things, and you’re, you’re looking at players, what’s kind of your, your checklist, right?
[00:06:40] Your hierarchy of things you’re looking for in a, in a player, whether that’s on the field or
[00:06:44] Coach: off the field stuff. Yeah, we did. I go through a very, very crystal clear three-step process to kind of start it. You know, we’re looking for good people. Um, I think that’s the number one thing, you know, any coach might say, or hopefully would say I’m looking for a good person.
[00:06:57] So, you know, uh, you know, I’m looking for somebody that’s gonna be early to practice, help out community service and want to do this stuff off the field versus just being a player. And then number two, I’m looking for a good student. You know, if he’s not gonna meet the, you know, the eligibility center requires.
[00:07:09] And our, you know, you know, enrollment requirements, there’s no point I don’t. He could be the best player in the world. Doesn’t matter to me. Uh, but then on the third step, we’re looking for, you know, obviously good players at the end of the day that fit our system. I think a lot of coaches and a lot of people get confused and you know, this kid’s a really good settlement, but you have eight.
[00:07:26] Good center mids already in your team. And I’ve been talking about that with my assistants and other coaches. Um, I need people that fit the system of play that we’re gonna play. So that’s, you know, that’s kind of where we’re at in terms of what I look for. Um, the first thing I look for when I, when I get to a field is, Hey, who’s the voice?
[00:07:40] You know, who’s the dictator, who’s the guy who’s who in the arm band or the metaphorical arm band in terms of dictating things. I challenge my assistance for this first recruiting. To bring in as many captains as humanly possible. You know, I think it’s an inherent trait that, you know, if we can get as many leaders as we can in the room, we’re gonna be in a better room in a year or so.
[00:07:58] No, that’s, that’s-
[00:07:59] Matt: -that’s a good way to look at it. Um, you know, a minute ago, you, you mentioned there, the whole offering scholarships part, you know, that’s one big thing. All players and parents, especially, are wondering what the finances look like. And, uh, what is it? You know, obviously, I don’t need specifics here, but in terms of Felician what.
[00:08:18] What does the whole financial aid package look like from an athletic standpoint, from an academic standpoint, how does it all work together and what, what can an average player that’s coming in, uh, you know, look at when they’re looking at the financial
[00:08:30] Coach: aid side. Yeah, it definitely varies as I’m sure, you know, most people would say, you know, we’re about 48, 51 between that range all in that’s between, you know, meals, housing, um, and tuition.
[00:08:42] Um, you know, obviously. Private four years. So, you know, then usually state school guys, you know, they’re not gonna get that state school price, but we are pretty, pretty, uh, flexible with our academic aid. Um, you know, we are in a position where we can stack scholarships to a certain extent. Um, so we have a little bit of flexibility in terms of making really competitive packages, um, for kids.
[00:08:59] So, you know, the average, average, you know, cost per student is 17,000. So, um, you know, obviously significantly less than the 50 at the top end. So, um, I think we’re in a position to be really competitive in New York, New Jersey. You know, price-wise, football-wise, and academically. So it seems like it’s a really exciting time for Felician.
[00:09:17] No,
[00:09:17] Matt: That’s, that’s great. Um, well, let’s shift a little bit then and talk about the school itself. Uh, since, like I said, we don’t, we don’t know all that about it, and I know you’ve only been there a year, but, you know, besides what I can find clicking around the website, you know, give me the, the inside scoop the nuts and bolts of what makes, uh, what makes Felician.
[00:09:36] Coach: Yeah, I, I think it’s a unique situation. I mean, at the division two levels, it’s a lot of smaller schools, smaller scale, you know, I like to call our community a tight-knit family, you know, within the athletics department, within the university itself, um, call it 2,500 students. Um, it’s about 70% female. It actually used to be an all-female school.
[00:09:55] Um, so I am likely, you know, incoming. Male student-athletes. We have a 70%, you know, girl ratio, you know, in terms of, Hey, you know, any, any kind of, any kind of move to the, move, the needle in our direction, we’re gonna do it. Um, you know, we’re about eight miles west of New York city, um, about three or four miles, five miles, um, from Hoboken, New Jersey.
[00:10:13] So we’re right near some major metropolitan areas. Open up doors off the pitch. There are a lot of semi-professional NPSL USL nations. There’re tons of football release relief, um, in, in the areas around us for spring, summer, uh, and post grad opportunities. So it’s really unique kind of off the pitch, you know, for the football stuff, uh, or on the pitch, excuse me.
[00:10:35] And then off the pitch, I think about the internship opportunities and it’s, it’s a good spin for a lot of the internationals, you know, they wanna be near. Major metropolitan city and nothing other than New York city. Um, you know, our downtown area is about two blocks away from campus and, you know, it’s four 50 for a direct bus train bus ride right into Times square.
[00:10:53] So, um, if you’re looking for those off the field, on the field, a good balance of both, um, I think Felician gives to a lot of those internationals and a lot of the domestic guys that are looking. So take their, take their step up away from maybe playing division three or playing club or whatever they may be doing.
[00:11:09] Um, and then on the academic side, we have four big schools. We have a school of nursing. That’s pretty, pretty renowned, uh, arts and sciences education, and then our business centers. So, um, it’s, it’s an exciting time, you know, we’ve just built a multimillion-dollar, uh, wellness recreation center on campus.
[00:11:24] It’s basically the basement’s a huge, uh, food hall, the main floor brand new gym, brand new training room, brand new meeting rooms, brand new VIP suites. Uh, then the top floor is a brand new kind of student population, gym, um, studios, workout areas and stuff like that. So basically when we’re in preseason, your first day there.
[00:11:42] As we eat, we go work out, uh, you know, we’re, we’re in a one building kind of situation where it’s, it’s really cool. And that’s what we sell a lot of the kids where it’s, you know, if you’re looking for open fields and prairies and, you know, deer, deer running around its stuff along with that nature, you know, Felicia’s not it, you know, we’re in and, an urban, urban environment where it’s, you know, it’s a city, like it’s a city, like feel it’s a super safe environment.
[00:12:05] Ruthford. If you don’t know downtown, Rutherford’s like extremely nice, you know, great restaurants and stuff to do. So it’s, uh, I think it’s very attractive on a lot of levels versus a lot of division two schools. Um, especially some of the competition that we have. Yeah.
[00:12:19] Matt: I, uh, I think my old college roommate lives, uh, next door and was at Lindhurst, uh, or something right there.
[00:12:25] So yeah. Yeah. He raves about it, so that’s that, I can see that. Well, I mean, you did mention, you know, some of the great, the new building and stuff, so, but in terms of on the academic side, you know, what, how do students there really kind of balance that, uh, academic and athletics, what kind of support systems are there to help them as they transition into college?
[00:12:46] Coach: Yeah, I mean, on the men’s soccer side, I’ll speak to that first. We have mandatory study hall hours for them. And that’s all incoming players. That’s all players below a 3.0, and we’re playing with that scale year by year, you know, in terms of lowering it, you know, elevating it and whatnot. Um, you know, our compliance people do a fantastic job in terms of using starfish system meetings, basically your input as a student athlete.
[00:13:06] And then if, you know, if this, if the, the instructor basically says that you’re struggling or says there are any issues. It’s flagged by, you know, our compliance people, the compliance person who over the coaches meets with that student athlete almost, you know, within a 48-hour window. And we can nip stuff in the bud that maybe, you know, the general population of students aren’t getting that resource, which I think is fantastic.
[00:13:27] Um, and you know, some of the on campus, you know, counseling and the on campus, you know, tutoring that we had to offer through athletics. And through the athletic department in general, I think it just streamlines the process. That’s what I would tell anybody outta high school. You know, being in the student population, you have, you had access to those.
[00:13:43] As a student athlete, everything’s just streamlined. The whole process gets moving just a little bit quicker. Um, and we get to help you out. And I think the biggest thing, I, I like to tell people our campus versus maybe others; you got people that really care here, and I know how cliche and stupid that sounds, but you have people that are really hands on, everybody knows your name for better or for worse.
[00:14:02] Um, and it’s really an environment that, you know, If, if you like people, if you, if you like being helped, if you like, uh, you know, really interpersonal relationships and getting to know people and not just being a number and we’re an attractive place, that’s gonna help you out academically.
[00:14:16] Matt: Uh, that’s awesome.
[00:14:17] Um, so for. Every school’s different in terms of when they practice and how they travel and when classes are and all, and how classes are set up. So what would and, I know there’s no such thing as typical, but what would a typical week look like for a player during the season in terms of when they wake up and go to class and eat and practice and all that kind of thing?
[00:14:37] Coach: Yeah. I mean, this past season was kind of nominally for us, cuz I was basically given the job about two weeks before season. We kind of had this set schedule that I looked at and I’m. I really wish this was in pencil, not pen, right? Uh, but there was no movement, but for this season, this is typical, what we told the guys.
[00:14:53] In the morning, get your classes done. I’m trying to be straightforward, get the classes done in the morning as early as possible, pack the schedule in the morning, because you know, our travel’s always gonna be in the evening, you know, in terms of weight games and stuff like that. So we always say stack your schedule as much as you can.
[00:15:06] Um, you know, around 12 to one, you know, is where we have our initial meetings or anything like that. Just kind of send out the session plans and stuff along those lines. We generally train from around two to four. Um, and, and, and again, I like being totally honest. We train about three miles off campus, you know, in an urban environment like us. You know, we don’t have our own field at our fingertips.
[00:15:23] Basically we prepare, you know, a video locker room and everything on campus. And then, the assistant coaches basically shuttle buses or shuttle the students, you know, to sites, um, you know, make sure we’re organized along those lines, two to four in terms of our training sessions. Um, and then, you know, obviously the evenings are your own, um, you know, 70% of our guys, you know, live on campus or at the end of the day.
[00:15:43] So it’s one of those situations where. You know, we have a really good environment, um, to kind of be successful, you know, off the pitch and, you know, get that academic kind of balance. Um, you know, just like my dogs provided me with a little good balance. I swear, but a week is for us. Yeah. Don’t worry, a week for us is generally what I like to call it.
[00:16:02] I like to tell all the high school kids and especially the internationals. It’s, it’s heavy. You know, we basically have Monday practice, Tuesday prepare Wednesday match Thursday recovery, Friday, prepare. Saturday match Sunday off, right? That’s a typical week for us, as black and white as you can.
[00:16:19] Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:16:21] Matt: Um, so let’s talk a little bit more about the team and the soccer side of things. As, as, as you know, when it comes to that, do you have a roster size that you’re looking to hit every year?
[00:16:35] Coach: In terms of, if, if you’re asking about, you know, from administration? No. Okay. If you’re asking me myself, I always have a little, a little bit of both.
[00:16:43] Okay. Uh, lemme just take this. Dog’s bald. I’ll keep talking. It’s one of those situations where, you know, for us, we want to hit enough to play 11, 11 daily, right? I mean that that’s, I mean, that’s probably any coach’s rule of thumb in terms of, you know, the accessibility and the stuff that they wanna do. Um, the number on my head is 20.
[00:17:03] That’s always the number I want to hit. I don’t know why. I don’t know how, but 20 eighths generally around 11, 11 plus four, five for injuries. And that’s where we’re at. Um, this season, this upcoming season we’re gonna carry. I think 33 is the number we’re at. Um, just ended up there. You know, if I keep finding kids who and I have Jersey, and if it’s a hundred dollars to fill their Jersey, plus whatever money for preseason, you start thinking about, Hey, is this kid worth that money?
[00:17:27] You know, I think a lot of coaches will say that. And if a kid’s good enough I’m, I’m gonna take him. I don’t care if it’s August, you know, fifth, whatever it is, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well,
[00:17:35] Matt: and, and honestly, if you, so I think I’ve interviewed, you know, almost 60 college coaches across the board. And I would say, if you ask me 20, eight’s gonna be that average across uh everybody’s uh, whenever I ask that question, unless, you know, some administrations hold them to a number, but I’d say most people would, is gonna go with 28.
[00:17:53] Um, well, in terms of. Your style of coaching, your team style of play, you know, how would you describe that for anybody, you know, interested to see if maybe they’re gonna fit? What, what are you looking for?
[00:18:06] Coach: Yeah. I mean, I guess I’m a, I’m a little bit Dutch and a little bit kind of Spanish at the same time in terms of, I like kind of possession with intent.
[00:18:13] So it’s not kind of a pep-ticky talk overplay, uh, possess just to possess, um, you know, I like kind of a total football kind of. In terms of, Hey, we have a guy who plays in the two or the right back for everybody that doesn’t understand numbers, which I talk to recruits every day. And somehow everybody’s confused by numerical.
[00:18:30] Uh, so we have a guy who plays in the two, but if I, if I stick him in the 10, he understands the core principles and he is, and he is good enough at football tactically and mentally that he can kind of adjust and do a job. Is it gonna be as good as my 10 would be? Probably not. Uh, but we play a high pressing, um, possession with intent system that likes dragon people outta their shape.
[00:18:48] Um, and I like changing our pressing system, you know, based on opponents, based on the temperature, based on my mood that day , um, you know, we’re not gonna be just a press, press, press, you know, Yugen clock, you know, rock and roll type thing. Um, you know, we’re gonna, you know, we’re gonna have ebbs and flows to the game and, you know, at the division two or any collegiate level, I think a lot of coaches need to understand that, you know, Hey, we, you have your plan.
[00:19:09] But my, my, I, I said it earlier, my plan’s always in pencil. Yeah. Okay.
[00:19:14] Matt: Well, in terms of your. Off season, you know, we’re, we’re getting ready to hit summer here, but what, what would a typical off season program look like for, for your team?
[00:19:26] Coach: Yeah, I mean, we’re, we’re, we’re in it right now. So, um, you know, I’m giving the guys that we’re on five days a week.
[00:19:31] Um, we have biometric day, lower body and upper body kind of rest day, uh, cardio day. And then, uh, I think, you know, one thing maybe I’m doing differently that hopefully nobody copies by listening to this, we’re doing like a challenge. So every week we’re doing a challenge and basically have to send in your, you know, video a time, you know, you with your, you know, your Fitbit or something along those lines.
[00:19:50] Um, and it’s running, it’s fitness. It’s fun stuff for, for a couple of them. So we’re looking to push each other, where is what I told the captains, push each other. We’re looking to have fun, get to know each other, all the above, looking to break that ice. So when we meet each other on day one with such a large recruiting class coming in, um, It’s like you already know each other.
[00:20:07] Um, and, and I, and I wanna make it competitive to the point where you’re posting scores to the whole group and you’re feeling comfortable enough to do that. So in the first couple weeks, we’re not doing it, but you know, by week three, you’re posting your scores. You know, you’re getting competitive with the person next to you.
[00:20:19] You can keep doing it all weekend. So if somebody beats your score, you can go do it again and try to beat them. And so it’s a never ending kind of cycle of competing as football is.
[00:20:27] Matt: Oh, that’s great. I love that idea, but I won’t, I won’t, I. Publicize it to,
[00:20:32] Coach: to anybody. I know. I know. You’re I know you’re editing this part.
[00:20:34] I appreciate that enough. Uh,
[00:20:36] Matt: Well, you know, we’ve, we’ve, uh, We’ve covered a lot of bases. We’ve talked about a lot of different things. So, you know, I always like to leave it on, on one last question and that’s, you know, what didn’t we cover? What, what else is out there that you want any prospects to know about the school, the team, your coaching, any, anything else like that, that, that you want to talk about?
[00:20:55] Coach: Yeah, I, I think, you know, I touched on in terms of good people, good students and, and good players. I think the biggest thing that I ask any recruit and I. Urge any parent or recruit during that recruiting process, just be as honest as possible. You know, I sit there and I tell people that the whole time and you meet good people and you, you think they’re gonna be honest and upfront and, and they’re not, you know, I think it’s one of those situations where my most precious commodity probably is yours probably is a lot of, you know, adults.
[00:21:19] My most precious commodity is time if I’m wasting time on a recruit. Um, and I don’t hear from him any plays for Cedar stars, you know, I think of Cedar stars, a different. That’s just me being honest. I don’t think so. And the same thing goes with a club coach who maybe gives a recommendation that’s not accurate.
[00:21:33] Um, I think everyone, I think just being honest with yourself in the process, it’s, it’s difficult. Everybody thinks they’re gonna play at UNC and play, you know, 25 games and be the guy. Um, but Hey, there’s other outlets out there and, and again, is it at Felician, is it at this school? Is it that school? Hey, you need to get your nose down into the process and really kind of see ground down, you know, really what’s what, and the biggest thing, when I tell my club kids, um, beyond being honest, I go see a team play.
[00:21:59] I think so many people don’t do that. And it’s ridiculous. And you don’t ask for a film. So a lot of coaches and Hey, myself included. We’re gonna paint the prettiest picture. I can, um, the picture’s real when you’re seeing it with your eyes. You know, unedited. So I would urge people to just be honest about the process and go see teams play.
[00:22:16] If you wanna play, go see.
[00:22:20] Matt: Yeah, it’s, uh, it’s a great piece of advice. And, uh, you know, I’m looking forward to hopefully taking in some games this fall, uh, now that my daughter’s gonna be in high school, maybe we’ll start taking a look and, and seeing some things. So, she knows what’s out there, but, uh, well, coach, I appreciate it.
[00:22:37] I wish you the best of luck. Uh, now that this, you got a full year under your belt, uh, and, uh, hopefully you can, uh, you get that 33 man roster. Chugging along the way you want it and, and hopefully bringing home a conference title or something. So, uh, really appreciate the time and
[00:22:52] Coach: we’ll be in touch. No, I appreciate it.
[00:22:54] Thank you so much. Best of luck. Thanks.
