College of St. Mary Women’s Soccer – Coach Jamison Parkhill
In today’s episode, I speak with Coach Parkhill from the College of St. Mary Women’s Program in Omaha. We talk about how he has a “No Jerk” recruiting policy. Coach also shares how they are unique as an all-girls school. Plus, we discuss what goes into their offseason training. Learn more about College of St. Mary Women’s Soccer.
Matt: [00:00:00] Hi everybody. Welcome to Discover College Soccer. Today I am lucky enough to be joined by Coach Parkhill at the College of St. Mary’s. Welcome coach.
Coach: Thanks for having me.
Matt: Yeah, thanks for being here. I think, uh, you know, having attended Catholic High School and the Catholic University of America, you know, it’s, uh, I think it, it’s, it’s a, it’s a battle for who has more the colleges with St.
Mary’s in the name or Trinity in the name. I don’t know. It’s probably a tough Correct. It’s a tough battle at this point.
Coach: There’s so many St. Mary’s out there. There’s literally one, two hours from us. That’s University of St. Mary, so, oh.
Matt: And yeah. And at Catholic University I played against, uh, St. Mary’s College of Maryland.
So, you know, it’s, and then there’s Mount St. Mary’s in Maryland as well, so it’s, yeah. Yeah. But you are the College of St. Mary in Nebraska. Yes. So that way we wanna make sure everybody understands that, uh, NAI Women’s program. So excited to to have [00:01:00] you. I actually did speak to your predecessor, I think about the two and a half years ago.
So good to to to hear what’s going on there. Um, so we’re talking beginning of July. You’ve been there a full season in an off season kind of. What, what was your recruiting kind of timeline this past year for this class of 25? When did, when did you lock that in? How far are you with 26? Is it at the July 2nd date?
Coach: Um, we. We started around August, ’cause we were still trying to finalize our 20 fours around June, July. So we really started around August really getting a list about who our 20 fives were. Um, and then, you know, season hit. So it kind of recruiting, kind of takes a, a back, back seat to preseason and kind of that really that start of the season.
And then, um, you know, we started getting kids on campus around. Late September, [00:02:00] October. Um, but then it really, really took off November, December. Uh, did a lot of events, uh, throughout the winter and we had most of our class wrapped up around late February, early March, which really helps because then, uh, we were able to get a jump on our 20 sixes and start getting a list of there.
And so, um. We have a, we have a really good list of 20 sixes now that we’re, we’re starting to, you know, focus in on and, and, uh, try to get them visits on campus for the fall and really jumping ahead of, of where we were last year, which is really good.
Matt: Okay. Well, you, you said you went to a lot of events.
Kind of what are the events that are on your calendar that, that you’re trying to get to each year?
Coach: Um, so we go to different showcases in Kansas City. Um, and then we try to hit up, um, one of the local clubs here in Omaha. Uh, Greta Elite Academy hosts a, a really good one. Um, and then [00:03:00] we try to get to. All the different little clubs around here, um, that might have one or, or try to get to a training session.
Um, this next year, I think we’re gonna be more intentional about where we go. Um, we’ve, we’re gonna, we’ve gone to Minnesota in the past. We’ve gone to RUP in Colorado. We’ve gotten a few from there. Um, we’re gonna try to go to more, uh, east LRL events, um, throughout the year, um, especially if they’re within driving distance of us.
Um. We do a team camp, uh, with Black Hills, uh, black Hills State and Spearfish. Uh, former coaching friend of mine. So it’s good to get up there because then we get to see some Wyoming kids, some South Dakota kids that we don’t normally see. Um, so kind of all over. Uh, and then we just use our online databases a lot.
So NCSA field level, uh, sports recruits is kind of the biggest things that we kind of use to. Get kids to see that are looking at us and interested and, and stuff like that, [00:04:00] so.
Matt: Okay. Well, what about ID camps? Do you guys do any, do your staff work, any external camps? Are they part of your recruiting process?
Coach: Yeah, we do. I mean, again, we do the Black Hills Camp. Um, we’ll do, um, again, we do the combine out in r uh, out in Colorado for Rial Cup. Uh, we’re hosting one. Uh, this will be our first one since I’ve been here. Um. This, uh, in July 19th. Um, we are really excited about the numbers that we have so far with that, especially being a small NAI all women’s college.
Um, the numbers that we have for it are, are pretty, pretty good. So we’re really forge that. Uh, we have a lot of 20 sixes coming to it. We have some 20 sevens and some 20 nines and a few 20 eights, um, to kind of get, just get them in our database, uh, which is huge for us, A lot of local girls. Um, but we’re also trying to expand where we go.
We’re gonna try to go to California this next year. Um. [00:05:00] My, my assistant coach is actually an ODP, regional ODP coach. So he goes to Florida, he goes to Rockford. Um, and so kind of be able to get out, uh, in the Midwest and, and kind of get to the coast is what our, what our hopes are.
Matt: Okay, awesome. Well, whether it’s a camp, uh, training session, a tournament where wherever you’re finding players, kind of what makes up that hierarchy of things you’re looking for in a player, both on and off the field.
Coach: Oh, one of our biggest things, uh, and I, I took this from my last stop that I was at at Iowa Western, um, was that we recruit no jerks. Uh, we were big on the, on the culture building. Um. We can ke, we can teach you the soccer and how we wanna play, but how you are with your teammates, with the coaches, how you are on the field while you’re playing, um, your personality, I think is the biggest, uh, emphasis.
And then we’re always looking at, uh, if they can do something better than someone on the field. You know? So if we’re looking at [00:06:00] a winger, we’re looking at somebody that likes to take someone on one V one. If we’re looking at midfielders, we’re looking at somebody that can control the game and, um, be a positive.
Uh, do they maintain possession? Do they, do they swing the play? Do they, um, uh, and then defenders, can they control the tempo and the, uh, and everything? Um, goalkeepers, are they good with their feet? Are they good? Um, uh, shot stopping? Do they command their back line? Um. Are they a presence? So there’s, there’s different things that we’re looking at, uh, through different players, but overall, we’re looking at how they are with their teammates and their coaches, um, and you know, how they are, how they interact with, with people.
Matt: Okay. Well, when you. Are going through all this, this recruiting and, and looking at your numbers each year, kind of what is that roster size you’re looking at? Especially, [00:07:00] ’cause it looks like you guys also have a developmental side as well.
Coach: Yeah, we, we do have a, a roster goal that we’re supposed to be hitting, uh, every single year.
Um, which, you know. Some coaches, if they see that, they’re like, oh, I don’t wanna ever be that high. But for us, uh, we look at just creating more competition within our side. Um, so we have a, for this fall, for instance, we have a full 18, uh, game schedule. And then for our reserve side, we have a 14 game schedule.
So, which is huge because, um, not everybody, if they go to the large roster, aren’t gonna. Have 14 games to play on a reserve side. Um, and so we make sure that we go out because like if I’m gonna recruit you, uh, I’m gonna make sure that you are playing, uh, you’re not just gonna come here to train. Like my goal is that I’m going to, if if you’re not playing your freshman year, you’re gonna, our job is to build you up for your sophomore, junior, and senior year.
Um, and so, [00:08:00] um, when we, when we do that, we, you know. We’re trying, we’re, we’re making sure that we tell ’em that there’s an opportunity to play and then we show that there’s actually people that have gone from our reserve side and started and played meaningful minutes in our, in our first team. So for example, we had a kid that came in as a left back or an outside back and you know, where I was like, I need somebody to go up top.
So I put her up, she’s like, I’ll do it. And so she goes up top scores a hat trick in that game. And I was like, okay. Next reserve match or next, uh, next, uh, first team match, we throw her in at the Stryker and she scores a goal, and then she goes on and scores five goals in six games for us in the first team.
And so it’s like, okay, so she took her opportunity and she, and she, uh, she took it. Um, and you know, I, it’s not just for me to just say you’re on reserve and that’s where you’re gonna stay. Like it’s, it’s fluid week to [00:09:00] week. We also try to, it’s not just I send my assistant coaches to go coach the reserve team.
I’m usually the one that’s traveling with them, because at the end of the day, I’m the one that’s telling them, you’re on the first team, you’re on the reserve team. This is our travel roster. Uh, and I think that’s huge because you don’t see a lot of that with head coaches going to the reserve side and, and being the one that’s actually coaching them because, and I think that’s for me.
Like, that’s how we get a lot of these girls because they know that there’s an opportunity for them to move, move up, uh, through, through our team. And, and I want them to know that you’re, you’re also a very important part of this team and you need to be seen. And that’s why I am the one that’s taking them to the reserve squad or reserve games because at the end of the day, I’m the one making the decision.
So that’s big for us. Yeah.
Matt: Yeah. That’s awesome. Well, let’s, uh, let’s talk a little bit more a about the school. Um, you, you’ve been there a year now, kind of what are some of the things that drew you to the program, some of the things in [00:10:00] that first year you found that are awesome about the school that maybe we wouldn’t even know by going through the website?
Coach: Yeah, so I, I went to Morningside University, uh, in the, in the gpac. So like I knew College of St. Mary’s, um, from for my playing days, um, and. When I got into college coaching, uh, my now Assistant Ed Meson, we were at a different college together and they’re like, Hey, if we ever got a job together, where would we want it to be?
And it was actually, we were like, we were both in the Omaha area and it was like, it would be College of St. Mary’s because being an all girls school, we don’t have to share the field with anybody. It’s ours, which is amazing because we get priority time whenever we want. We don’t have to wait for football, we don’t have to wait for a men’s team.
We don’t have to wait. For lacrosse, we essentially get whatever time we want on, on our field, which is huge. Um, it’s right in the downtown, uh, right in in Oma in the middle of Omaha. We got a amazing shopping center right next to us, [00:11:00] uh, for with Exor where it has food, cinema, shopping, anything that kids would want.
Um, and then. They have, they’re really big into the health sciences. So nursing is probably our biggest, uh, major that we have. But then we also have our teaching degrees. We have, uh, business, but to be able to draw nurses. That wanna still continue playing soccer and continue doing for the four years, because there’s a lot of the times where you have your nurses that can only play about three years just because that fourth year is, is very, very heavy.
Our nursing program does a very, very good job of working with athletes to make sure that they play all, they’re able to play all four years. Um, so yeah, just being. Being an all girls school, I think is also unique because I think the biggest thing is, uh, the only thing that we don’t have is that there’s not boys in the dorms, but, you know, we have UNO and Creighton, uh, within the city that if they really want to go, uh, be with [00:12:00] some, some boys they can.
Um, but, you know, everyone’s there for the same purpose, uh, in terms of getting their degree, playing some playing sports or. Um, and just, it’s a, it’s a really unique community. Um, and we’re really on the up. Uh, we’re on the up. We got a new ad, uh, that’s changing. We got a lot of new coaches that are in, so I’m really excited about where we’re going with, with CSM.
Um, and it’s just, it’s getting better and we’re starting to make some noise within the gpac. Our, for instance, our track and field, they just had an amazing. Amazing year. Uh, volleyball’s usually a national contender. I, for myself, I have very high ex expectations and lofty goals for this program, and I’m not going anywhere anytime soon.
So, um, I’m here for the long haul and I, I want to make this and somebody that the GPAC has to watch out for and, um, you know, compete with the Hastings of the Concordias every year [00:13:00] in and year out.
Matt: Okay, awesome. Well, one of the toughest parts about making the transition to being a student athlete at the college level is balancing the demands of being the athlete and the student.
What, what support systems are in place there at, at the school to help, uh, your players be successful both on and off the field?
Coach: So, for us, specifically, our program, uh, we have study hall hours that. All freshmen are required to have, just to help with that balance between, uh, the schoolwork and, um, uh, just that transition being away from, from home, uh, to make sure that they’re actually doing the work and, and staying on top of it.
Because, you know, myself being a student athlete, I, my first freshman year it was, it was awful. I didn’t have the support system, so I wanted to make sure that. Uh, our kids do, and especially coming from a teaching background that I, you know, I was a teacher for six years, so education’s a very big part for it.
Um, and [00:14:00] we also wanna be successful on and off the field, so be in those study hall hours. And so they, depending on their GPA, they can get out of those. They’re. Spring semester. But, uh, then it’s kind of a tiered system, uh, depending, so they could be on it for all four years. They can be on for one semester, or they can go, they can be off of it, uh, depending on how well they do.
And they can always be put back on, uh, throughout the semester. Um, and then we have our student success that are more worried about how they’re doing outside of classes and outside of, outside of sports, just how they’re doing as a whole person with that mental health, which I think is huge. Um. I think with me, I’m always their check-in point, just seeing how they’re doing those, those meetings, uh, those individual meetings that we have throughout the year, um, and, um.
Then being a small college, uh, kind of our, our class sizes, our, our largest class size that you’ll probably be in is about 15 kids, maybe 20. Uh, and then as you kind of get into your major, you’re getting 10 and lower, which I think [00:15:00] is big because then you kind of. Have that personal relationship with the professors and they know who you are, they know what you’re doing.
Um, and then they know if you’re missing or if they, if you’re have missed consecutive days, they’ll reach out to the coaches. They’ll reach out to their student success to be like, Hey, I haven’t seen this person in a while. Or they’ll reach out to you personally. Uh, which I think is huge because, you know, if you go to a bigger university or sometimes just a number and they don’t really care if you show up or not.
Um, so the fact that our professors are, you can have that personal relationship with the professors and they care about you. Uh. So I, I think that’s huge for us being a small institution.
Matt: Yeah, for sure. Well, let’s rewind or fast forward your choice to, uh, to the fall, October heart of that conference season.
Kind of walk me through what does a typical week look like for a player in terms of when are classes, practices, meals, game cadence, all that kind of stuff.
Coach: So, so for us, we will train three to five, uh, this fall. Um, and I think that the big [00:16:00] thing about that is the consistency of it. Um, we don’t try to, we don’t move practice around at all.
We don’t train, uh, 7:00 PM one day. We don’t train at noon the other day. We train at, we try to stay at three to five, uh, every single day. Um, that way it helps them with the consistency. They know when we’re gonna, when we’re gonna train every single day and kind of get our bodies ready for when we play.
Um, so a typical day, uh, Mondays, uh, during season Monday will actually be reserve game days. Um, and so first team will have those days off. Um, they will lift at seven o’clock in the morning, um, and then they’ll go to class between eight. To three o’clock. Um, and then depending if we have to travel or not, uh, we’ll probably leave, probably.
It depends on how far it goes. I think our furthest reserve game is three hours away, so we’ll be leaving. Somewhere in the afternoon [00:17:00] or 11 noon to, to get to those games. Um, and then reserve will have that day off. And then Tuesday we’re game prepping, uh, for our Wednesday match. That will be conference.
So we’ll train three to five. We’ll do a film session, um, after that. Um, and then Wednesday’s game day, depending if it’s, if it’s away, we’ll leave sometime in the morning. Uh, go get something to eat. Have the game be back that day. We try to, we tend to do day trips ’cause our furthest uh, trip is about four hours and so.
We wanna save it within the budget so that we can get the fun stuff to, you know, in the gear and the, and the different other outings that we do throughout the year. Um, and if it’s a game day, they’re, they’re dismissed at like 1230 from class so that they can get something to eat in the locker room by one 30, uh, and then out for warmups by around two 30 so they can be ready for a three o’clock start.
Um, and then Thursday, uh, more of a recovery day, they’ll [00:18:00] have waits again at 7:00 AM. Uh, and then classes, uh, and then we’ll go more recovery, um, for the session. Still get something that we, I mean, if we saw something in the game that we need to fix or, or work on for the, for that weekend, we will. Um, and then Friday train classes, train three to five, and then game days on Saturday.
Uh, if it’s. This year, if it’s home, we’ll be playing at one o’clock. So it’ll be just a little bit slider earlier time. Uh, and then if it’s away, most of ’em were five, six o’clock at night. So, uh, we’ll leave some time, uh, to get out there. But one of our biggest things that we’re gonna be doing this year is really focusing on that recovery report, uh, portion of it.
So make sure that we’re, we’re staying healthy and, uh, and fresh throughout the season. So when we’re in the thick of it in, in October, we really wanna be. Hitting that stride and kind of on the uphill climb towards the end, towards postseason. So really focused on recovery and just [00:19:00] fixing those tiny little things that we need, uh, throughout the year, uh, throughout the season, kind of, you know, work on our set pieces, work on our, uh, defensive shape, um, and things that we think will be critical when it comes to post-season time in, in November.
Matt: Okay, great. Well, let’s talk a little bit more about the team. You, you, you, you mentioned, uh, your assistant, so, so what other staff do you have that help out with the team? What other maybe support staff are there in the athletic department that maybe you haven’t mentioned and, and what’s everybody’s role there?
Coach: So I have two assistant coaches, uh, ed Meson. Um, this is actually our third stop together. Uh, we were at Nebraska Christian College back in 2019, uh, together, uh, and then we were at Iowa Western Community College together in 20. Two, when we won our first national title there. Uh, and then he decided to leave and then we won another one.
So maybe it wasn’t totally up to him. Uh, and then I got this job [00:20:00] in 23, so, uh, I knew he was looking and I needed a goalkeeping coach, so, um. Asked him if he wanted to join us. And he’s been us, been with us since last, uh, last September. Uh, he’s also our recruit coordinator. He’s essentially the initial stop for all recruits.
Like he has the initial call with them, uh, and then I’m the one that once they get on campus, I’m the seller. So it’s kind of how it goes there. And then we have, uh, Eliani Parra, who is our, uh, other assistant. Um, she. She’s a DOC at a local club, uh, here in Omaha. That helps, uh, helps us be able to get, uh, some, some players through.
Um, and she, with her being a former college athlete and she did it at Bellevue University, so she understands where these girls are at is, is huge for us. Um, and then so those two are having those two, um. Has really helped be able to bounce [00:21:00] ideas. You know, ed really works more with the defense and the, and the goalkeepers.
Ellie’s more midfield than I’m, I work with the Fords and attackers and so we kind of all have our areas of expertise and it brings, uh, a really good cohesion to our staff. Um, and then we have two athletic trainers that work with our program, uh, make sure that we’re healthy. Uh, keep me in line, make sure that I’m, you know, I’m, I’m doing what I need to do.
Um, and really looking forward to working with them more. Uh, really working on getting recovery tools, um, for this fall with them. Uh, then our athletic director, he’s really supportive of us, you know, he’s going into his, uh, third, third year, uh, this fall. Um, and he’s just, you know, I think he’s still trying to learn, uh.
Soccer and, and why we do ties. And I try to explain to him, and he’s still, he’s a, he’s a basketball guy, so he is just like, ah, I hate ties. Um, but he’s, he’s really supportive of what we do. Um, and [00:22:00] anything I ask, we, you know, he makes sure that it gets done. Um, and so it’s just, it’s a really good, supportive, athletic, uh, department here.
Um, and my staff and I are really excited about what we have this fall. So.
Matt: Yeah, my ad was a, was a basketball coach too, so I get it. I, I’m, I’m right there with you. He, he didn’t, he didn’t understand why, uh, players didn’t have stats, you know, like, you know, so I, I, yeah. Uh, well, what, what about you, uh, talk to us about your coaching style and, and the style of play you’re looking to play there.
Coach: Uh, so for me, um. So this is my first head coaching gig in the college game. Uh, like I said, I was a teacher for six years. I coached high school boys for for 10 years until I got this gig, and then I gave that one up. Um, this is my third collegiate stop. I was an associate head coach at Nebraska Christian College in Pillion.
Um, and then we closed our doors due to, uh, [00:23:00] um, right when COVID hit, we closed our doors forever. Which, that was kind of the biggest what if of my career because we had a really, really good recruiting class coming in, and we were really excited about what we were gonna be for that fall. And then, uh, I got told the news and those were the hardest calls to make to those recruits was just like, yeah, I’m, I’m sorry we don’t have a home for you anymore.
If you need help finding a place, um. Then I was the assistant co, uh, assistant coach at Iowa Western Community College, uh, in Council Bluffs, uh, on the women’s side, uh, for three years. Um, made national tournament our first year bowed out. In group play, losing one zero to both, uh, Butler and, um, salt Lake.
And then came back with a vengeance and we won back to back national titles in 22 and 23. So I, you know, taken a lot of of stuff from that because the coach there, Adam Sanchez, you know, um, was a mentor. [00:24:00] Uh, and so he, looking back. Like I, I, and again, I’ve stolen a lot of stuff for him, but he essentially was able to put how I wanna play and I was actually able to see it and put into words.
And so I stole a lot of stuff from him. And so, you know, we, we kind of play that style. It’s a high pressing style. Uh, really try to overload in the box, attacking wise, overload defenders. Um, and then when we’re in possession, just be purposeful, uh, control the tempo to control the rhythm. And then if we ever lose the ball, just be sharks and, and get after and put numbers around the ball and just control those, those transitional moments.
I think for me that is one of our biggest things that we look to train is those transitional moments. Because I believe if we win, if we’re really good in those transitional moments, we’re gonna have success. And if we’re not, we’re gonna get beat on the counters, on, on set pieces and stuff like that. So, uh, we wanna make sure that we’re.
Controlling [00:25:00] those. Uh, and that’s one of the biggest things that we can, we, we train, uh, day in and day out. Um, and then just how we are, if we’re fit, if we’re a fit team. Um, ’cause in that first national championship run, um. We won most of those games after the 60th minute. And so he actually did a whole study, or Adam Sanchez did about like how many box entries we had after the 60 minutes compared to the other team, and it was like triple.
And he attributed to how well, how fit we were and. You know, we weren’t gassed and we could just go, go, go, go, go. So that’s something I really like, try to model us after is, you know, being fit. And so after that 60th minute, we can continue going and, and push for those final 30 to either get a winner or just close out a game.
Matt: Yeah, definitely important. Um, well you’ve, you, you got hired kind of mid spring, so this past one was kind your first full off season. Talk to me about what, what does that typical off season look [00:26:00] like for you guys?
Coach: Um, for this off season, it was, you know, when I got hired, we had 27 girls on the roster, which was nice because essentially those girls were the ones that we were gonna go into the spring with, besides the freshmen that we were gonna bring in.
Uh, whereas this year we lost 15 players to graduation, um, which was a lot. Um, so essentially it cut our, uh. Roster in half. Um, and then we had a couple seizing and ending injuries that just weren’t available for us in spring. So we had 18 players that dropped down to about 14 available to us. And so. My biggest challenge this spring was to how can we keep these kids engaged without doing the same things over and over again?
Um, and for me, spring’s, uh, all about the individual. How can, how can we develop the individual and get them better so that when it comes to fall, when it’s more about the team, they’re ready to contribute. [00:27:00] So the two, so we did Tuesday, Thursday were our soccer days. Tuesdays we did, uh, more individual stuff, more footwork, individual base, getting, just getting better technically.
And then Thursday we ran a, uh, futsal league. So we had four, we had four teams, um, that we kind of was random and then we just had a golden boot winner and a. Golden Ball winner and then the overall tournament champion, um, to kind of just keep them engaged and, you know, something to look forward to, something to play for.
I think that was the biggest thing. Instead of just coming out here and just playing s all they, there was something behind it, something that kind of helped ’em motivate. Um, and then in April we, you know, after, sorry, in spring break, which was late March, we got outside and we kind of switched it to where it was more three days of soccer and, um, still lifting throughout.
Um, still doing about three days of lifting. Um, but we were able to get, uh, two, two [00:28:00] days, two days of matches. Um, we did, we hosted friendlies here with the Dakota Wesleyan and Donne, which was really nice ’cause we were able to go full 11 via 11. Um, and, you know, get them out. Um. And, and see them on an actual big pitch.
And then we, uh, went to Northeast Community College up in Northfolk and did, uh, 99 99 games. So to be able to get out and actually play meaningful games was, was big, especially to kind of prep us going to this fall. So,
Matt: yeah. Awesome. Well, coach, I really appreciate the time and all the info. I’m gonna ask you one last question, and that is, if you had one piece of advice for any girl going through this college recruiting process right now, what would that be?
Coach: I would say just reach out, um, no matter how big or small the college is like. We can only do so much to find you. Um, so if you’re really interested in, in a college, [00:29:00] reach out to the coach, reach out to all the coaches, honestly, put ’em all in an email. Um, because I know for us, I may not necessarily look at the look, get in, look at an email, and then one of my assistants are like, Hey, did you see this email from this one?
And I will go and go and look at it. Um, and so just reaching out, being consistent with the communication, like if you’re really interested in that school, um. Just make sure that you are being, being open to the communication. And at the end of the day, just make sure that it’s a right fit. Um, we always tell our, uh, tell our athletes like, could you see yourself going to the school without soccer?
And if you can’t do that, then it’s a right fit because at the end of the day, uh, soccer’s finite, you only get so many years to play it, but you’re there to get your education and your degree and, um. So make sure that it’s a right fit for you academically, not just for soccer wise.
Matt: Absolutely. Well, coach, really appreciate it.
Wish the best of luck this fall season. Hopefully you guys can be hanging that G pack banner [00:30:00] when it’s all said and done.
Coach: Appreciate it. Thank you.
Matt: Thank you.




