Northeast Texas Community College Men’s Soccer – Coach Jon Evan

Matt: [00:00:00] Hi, everybody. Welcome to Discover College Soccer. Today, I’m lucky enough to be joined by Coach Evan at Northeast Texas Community College. Welcome, Coach. 

Coach: Hey, thank you so much for having me, Matt. I’ve been looking forward to joining you and doing this for a while. I’m grateful for the opportunity. 

Matt: Yeah, happy to have you, you know, you’re, you’re in Mount Pleasant, Texas, which most people I’m guessing, unless you’re in Texas and, or maybe Arkansas, uh, Oklahoma, you might know where that is, but for, for everybody you’re talking East and just a smidge North of Dallas, uh, kind of near that Arkansas, Louisiana line, um, two year men’s program over there.

And, and we were just talking before this, we, you know, Typical in the soccer world. We know a lot of the same people, uh, you, you had a short stint with the place that I coached at for a bit. I mean, it’s just one of those things where, uh, one thing I always tell recruits is everybody, you know, people play the six degrees to Kevin Bacon game in the soccer world.

It’s got to be two degrees. So, uh, Word travels fast and be careful what you do when you’re talking to coaches. 

Coach: Said it any better. Yeah, we’re, we’re, um, uh, you know, about an hour 45 from, uh, a good reason why I took this position. Uh, Frisco, right. You know, give or take, you know, I drive like a granny. So, you know, 55 saves lives, but you know, hour 45, some guys can make it quicker.

And then I’m sure there’s somebody drives slower than me, but [00:01:30] that is a great place. You know, the renowned FC Dallas, you know, academy places, fertile ground. Recruit from such a big reason why took position. Um, we’re also north of, um, about an hour, give or take from Tyler and long view, which I refer to as, uh, small cities Mount pleasant is probably what somebody would refer to as a, a big town as opposed to a small city.

Hotels restaurants, you know, um, you know, we, we always look like, um, you know, Chick fil a came a year or so ago. I think Chipotle and canes to be serious are next. You know, we have a Starbucks, you know, big people are laughing at that stuff, but, you know, it’s the kind of place that people try to move to, you know, to get out of the city traffic and cost of living.

And, you know, I think, you know, there’s some folks here that look at it and go, like, oh, it’s, you know, it’s getting big, but, you know, then folks also like the. The growth I look at, we got an education center here, you know, there’s the college that we work at, which is a great place. Tyler is a good place to work from long view is right down the road.

Dallas long view and Tyler all have 4 year schools that fit the profile that we can push our guys on to that. I can recruit from. You know, so you start to get a little sense of my man is 4 hours from Houston, which has an MLS Academy and I’ll let 1 more when you started going East 3, 4, Louisiana is 2 hours, 4 year schools there.

So, I think I’m, you know, crazy like a Fox, you know, we’ll see 20 years from now. It works out. [00:03:00] 

Matt: Well, I mean, you mentioned those areas and. Is that where you’re primarily looking when you’re recruiting in terms of like, are you going to tournaments there or what, what events do you do? Do you look at league games, high school games, kind of what’s your recruiting mantra right now?

Coach: I love it. So first of all, just, you know, this as well as everybody else that you speak to. I’m looking for the best players, you know, I should say, you know, I’ll go the old Herb Brooks talking. I’m looking for the, the right players, the best players. Right? But, you know, I want the same best players, the same right players that every other coach wants at any level we play in 1 of the toughest college soccer conferences at any level.

We got Tyler junior college. Um, Angelina recently, uh, 1 of my former players is the head coach at, at, um, at Richland, uh, junior college in Dallas, not in our region, which we call conferences at this level or conference, which we call region, but they’re in our general geographic region. So, anyway. To keep up with those guys, you know, I, I think you obviously want to, you know, like, concentric circles when you’re, you know, or ripples in a, in a, in a pond.

I want to win the local, you know, get the best player in my town towns nearby, expand it and then, obviously, I’m 97 years old. So, you know, I recruit from all of my stops and places and friends and contacts and former players and [00:04:30] internationally included. Healthy Bounce is started with Texas kids because they financially fit well and we’ve got great players in the academies here in Texas.

So, you know, you start start there and build out. I hope I hope that’s about as clear. It wasn’t as clear as mud for you, but. Um, you know, start there. If you look at my roster, our rosters, uh, part of why I took this job, you know, is I can get a good blend of guys, of dudes, um, that, uh, are from the local area that, you know, that stand out, um, that fit in well with guys through the rest of Texas in the region.

I left out Oklahoma when we were talking on the earlier question. Just north of me, you know, 4 hours from Tulsa. Um, and, um, you know, so Texas kids, they fit financially. It’s more affordable. We have a, an out of state rate, but it doesn’t matter whether you’re in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Florida, uh, Owensboro, Kentucky that we talked about, or you could be in France.

It’s the same rate for for anybody outside of our state and it’s, it’s the Texas Community College is some of the most affordable in the country. So, so I can go after. I feel pretty good if I can get a recruiting call, if I get that far, um, and for the international guys and the local guys, if I can get them on campus, anybody within 4 or 5 hours, I might get them on campus.

We want them. They want them. They’re coming. 

Matt: Okay. Now, what about camps? Do you guys do your own camps or do you or your staff work other camps? Are they part of your recruiting mix? 

Coach: I’ve done it before. Um, uh, at [00:06:00] smaller places and, um, we’d like to build it up here. 1st 1st years and I’ll give a nod to something we talked about her 1st 2 years.

Yeah, I was coaching, uh, both teams, the women teams by necessity. Right, so that and having 2 teenage kids, and I’ve got a teenage student athlete daughter with a, with a medical special need wife who was in nursing. So I’m making excuses. I chose not to to go crazy. It’s doable to do camps and clinics here.

We are working to hire 2 really good young assistants. I’ve given them sort of carte blanche with my LLC say, hey, let’s go ahead and get the camp up and running. Just an ID 1, sorry, a 1 day all day college prep clinic. And yes, I do go work the, uh, you know, like, I think and Dallas is the most fruitful.

I’ve got a long term relationship with them. It’s a high level program. Most of the kids that go, there will not be able to attend there. Even the coaches that I interact with, there are opportunities for me to. Develop relationships and recruit. So, I’ll keep that 1 up. Um, perfect world is, uh, SMU ID camp college prep in the summer.

They have a winter 1 day ID thing. Do an ID camp here in the summer in the winter. Our 1st, 1 here under me will be this spring. Hopefully, if we can fill it, um, and then, um. As far as the club, the club [00:07:30] part, being able to, um, I’ve got, I’ve got a foot saw program that I run with some youth locally. If I could build out out in time, um, that’s all my interest to do some local cup.

This area is rapidly going. So, in time, I’ll have some opportunities. I don’t want to travel. What’s the point? Like a lot of, you know, uppity college. I don’t want to go travel, uh, you know, to do what I want to do. I have a field and I keep offering people. Somebody’s going to nibble at some point. Okay. And say, okay, yeah, you know, we’ll give you a team and you train them at your, so I don’t want to travel for the team.

I don’t want to travel an hour to go coach the team, if that makes sense. 

Matt: No, I get it. Well, in terms of, you mentioned a little bit players moving on, um, kind of talk to me a little bit about that in terms of what, what your players have been able to, what, what folks who come there are looking to do, how has that transition been for somebody that’s.

At the 2 year level, moving over to the 4 year, 

Coach: yeah, so, so, you know, you can tell by, like you said, you’re looking up my history or, you know, anybody knows me. I’ve worked every job from, you know, chief cook to bottle watcher, you know, in this industry and coaching didn’t have a family or mentorship.

They’re coming up from that, but I had 1, really, really good. Blessing, I played for one of the best programs in the history of college soccer. I was not a big guy. I was just in a big program. I played at Southern Connecticut State University, which is the gift that keeps on giving, um, you know, you could run down the list of guys, but, you know, Juan Carlos Osorio was part of that program, Mexican national team coach in Russia in [00:09:00] 2018, Ray Reed, my college coach who just retired, um, And, um, you know, we’ve got guys all over the country, you know, what have you so I’m in my coach and prime family is in a really good way, which makes a difference, you know, you know, where we want to be.

And I can really get focused and get after it. And all those experiences led me to say, I left a 4 year school that was about to go D2 and I look at it and I said. This, this doesn’t smell right and my experience high level, um, you know, D2 final fours, what have you and then as an assistant, I was at a marquee D2 program out here, Midwestern state.

And I chose that to do grad school, because it was similar to that Southern kinetic experience point being, I said, all my experiences, we always recruited from Richland and Tyler and all these places. Let me go try to fight against now, let me go. I love that level and I believe in my ability to push our guys on.

So, in my 1st, 2 years. Everybody that wants to get placed, I get a place, you know, there’s a place for everybody. And so I work my contacts, I. I write an email physical, technical, tactical, psychological, you know, athletic, um, ability, you know, awareness attitude. I put, I write an email. I make them put a 5 minute video together that I direct them how to do.

And then I call coaches, I guide them and I said, this is how you should make your video. You know, the, you know, the things you should put in there coaches don’t want to see a quick. You know, fool you. You know, quick, quick, glamorous thing, [00:10:30] show, show the definition of falling down, but getting back up, show that you can tackle play both sides of all those things.

So I work really hard. I take great pride in pushing the guys out the other side. And I think that’s why they want to join us. They want, they want to come. Um, so, so, uh, my 1st experience, um. Junior college, you know, it was right before the pandemic, you know, change things for a lot of people. We left and unfortunate to come over here.

I sent, uh, you know, a French international guy, uh, 1 of the hardest working kids. I always, you know, the hallmarks like, well, you could have played with us at Southern Connecticut. You know, I would have recruited you at Midwestern state. And matter of fact, I sent him to Midwestern state. Uh, it was the leader captain.

He was 2 years 1 of the best goalkeepers in the country and in the region. And then his partner to captain a local Dallas kid, I sent to go play for 1 of my college teammates up in New Jersey. Um. And, uh, to take a lot of pride in that, and we’re, we’re on our way to moving these guys here right right now as well.

Um, so I’m really proud of it. The degrees that we have, they fit into almost any public state school. And, you know, most of the. Most of the, uh, you know, what do you, what do you call liberal arts private schools that, you know, they have a variety of degrees. Most of our guys are really well suited to go on to those schools, you know, when they finish up.

Matt: Well, let’s talk a little bit more about the school. I mean, you mentioned, obviously it’s geography and the advantages of that. But now that you’ve been there a season or two, uh, what are some of the other things you [00:12:00] found that are pretty awesome about the school? Some things we might not even know by going through the website.

Coach: So we used to say, you know, I’ll keep referencing, you know, Southern Connecticut and, you know, Midwestern state, you know, Midwestern state was a D1 and a D2 and a D1 body, right? So we’re, we’re a, we’re a 2 year school and a 4 year body. So we have housing, meals, um, athletic facilities, a growing area. It’s a safe place.

You know, you look out my field and you see cows and goats and what have you because we’re, we’re about 5 minutes from the town. So, we’re in an ag area and a lot of these 2 year schools in this region have really developed ag programs. And we have some guys going to it, you know, so that’s neat. And I think it’s a great experience, um, way back in the day, growing up in the Northeast Yukon, you know, uh, it was no, it was an ad place.

It was on a, it was on a dairy farm, basically, you know, uh, and they’ve done pretty well over the years and all their sports. So, uh, at any rate, so we have housing, which changes the game. Many of the 2 year schools have contracts with, you know, local apartments or their city schools. So, I got to first explain to guys that overcome.

Hey, that’s not what we are, right? The local kids as well as the and then they go. Oh, now, you know, I’d rather tell everybody the warts and what we don’t have. I’m not trying to sell anybody anything slick, but I believe. And our ability and what we do across the student athlete experience, athletically, academically, financially, socially, geography, we can provide a really good [00:13:30] experience and I’ll put what we do against when anybody’s doing at any level of the game.

So, for the right kids. It’s the right we’re going to train them at a high level. Uh, they have a quality, you know, nutrition plan in the cafeteria. Um, the housing is good, you know, high level academics again. It’s not Harvard, but you can get out of the academic experience at any school what you put into it.

You know, the kids that want to train hard, you know, we’re playing against some of the best college soccer conference, you know, Richland, who we play to open our season every year, you know, they routinely play, you know, MLS 2nd teams, you know, the, you know, MLS 2 teams, they play every D1 team and I’d like to catch.

You know, call me crazy at, you know, judge me in 20 years, but I’d like to catch, um, that level where people want to play us at those teams and Tyler, um, you know, who’s consistently done a year after year. So, you know, when you’re good, you’re good and you also know what you need to do to measure yourself.

So, our athletic experience is good academics, you know, high enough level financial, one of the most affordable, um, values, you know, in, in, in the region, in the country. You know, especially obviously for kids want to choose to your schools. Um, and then the social and geography. Yeah. If you want to be at big state, you crowd surfing at the, you know, 100, 000 people, you know, with prime coaching football team, we’re not your place.

Um, but I’m, you know, those kids aren’t looking at us in the first place. 

Matt: Yeah. Those are the different animals, different animals. Yeah. Uh, well [00:15:00] rewind, uh, I’d say, bring us back to the middle of the season, kind of walk me through what does a typical week look like for the players in terms of practices, classes, games, all that kind of stuff.

Coach: I want to say three phases, right? Uh, so obviously the preseason phase, uh, we’re, you know, we’re not fully funded. I like our budget. We have a good budget. So no complaints to my administration, those folks, you can always. Ask for more, and they’re always trying to help us, but, um, we don’t come in, you know, August 1, I think you can August 1, the 1st week, August, you can come in pretty much for.

Um, uh, preseason, we’re not doing that, you know, maybe some years from now, some fundraising. We’ve never had an issue possible, but preseason I’m old school. So. Um, you know, we’re doing a 3 days, you know, I break it up with modern science on the health is expose guide background. So. Morning for for 2 weeks, um, you know, give or take, we will do fitness in the morning for a lot of reasons.

1 because it’s healthy. We’ll do it to get the guys, you know, up early in the morning, um, let him go back up, you know, rest, wash up, come out for a tactical session in the afternoon. Uh, fitness is already done, so just warm up tactics, you know, short, sweet to the point. And even we just play, um, date wise.

You know, teams are coming in 1st, uh, week of the, um, of August, you know, sometimes August 1st. [00:16:30] I look at starting date and then our, um, 1st, day of class. Right generally, August 25th or something like that down here. So, and then, you know. 1st day of, uh, uh, you know, opening of the season is usually like, like a lot of places the Thursday before the 1st weekend, you know, you can do that.

So we’re, we’re starting to play around the 21st, 22nd, 23rd of August, usually in class to start right after that. So, 10 days to 2 weeks. Behind that 2 weeks is pushing it budget wise for us with what I want to do. So, um, try to get in on the, on the 2 week on the nose, maybe around the. You know, uh, let me just say the 23rd, maybe we’re going to start playing.

I try to get them in. You know, around the 10th, 11th or so, and we start about 10 days, we start. Start training and I build in. You know, that 3 days and an exhibition or 2 season starts classes start. Right? And, um, we play Tuesday, Friday in our league, um, you know, modern science, obviously, you know, with that, you know, the advent of the academies and able to like, with all due respect to my high school coaching.

We’re not trying to play 3, 4 games in a week. You know, we’re going to play Morgan. We play 22 games. It’s almost impossible. And we have a team in our region, right? Which we call conference here. 13 hours away. Okay. Don’t get me into that conversation, but at any rate, um, so we’re pretty much Tuesday, Friday from.[00:18:00] 

Uh, September 5th until, you know. Conference tournament starts, you know, 1st week in November. Um, so I have relationships with a couple folks. Richland will start our season off pretty much every year. We’ll start off with them. Um, and and then, um, well, we may have a by, we’re doing some juggling right now with the conference.

But basically, uh, Sunday, even I do like, you know, like an old school, you know, English like a Wednesday. So we’ll come in warm up and just play coaching through the plane. Um, Monday, uh, is a is a heavy load. Uh, if we don’t play otherwise Monday, we’re doing doing some training and, you know, usually defensive type stuff and get ready for for Tuesday’s match Wednesday.

You got to recover. Right, so you do some recovery, but can’t waste the day. Uh, so recovery on the field, depending on whether we play Friday, not some tactical stuff. Thursday can hit it again a little bit. Then I like to do some, some stuff related to probably some finishing Friday. If we’re at home, it’s great, but I give them from Friday off Friday off until Sunday evening.

Most of the time. Right, you can cure disease in that period of time. So give them give them some time off and we have every Saturday off and. Right, even if, you know, sometimes we’re getting back 3, 4 in the morning from that long trip, but that generally looks like it. Winter break comes along, um, and spring season.

So, yeah, I guess it is 3 phrases. I was telling you must have spring season. Um, I’m a big foot salt [00:19:30] guys. We talked a little bit earlier, you know, high level rules, tactical, technical, technical. So, February, I give me 2 weeks to be just be a student to acclimate when school starts back, you know, in January.

February 1 till spring break, um, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, weight room. And foot saw, so what we do, and I got an outdoor court that we use, whether it’s pretty good here. So, we’re pretty much able to hit that the Tuesday, Thursday, Friday doesn’t change. Uh, after spring break, you know, late March until the end of the semester, you know, late April.

We’ll play our 3, 4 exhibition games to home to away, but it’s Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. They can work. They can be student out. They can be students. Um, whatever they need to do Monday, Wednesday. We’ve trained early on Fridays, so they can have the weekend and we got to play games. We don’t have classes on Fridays, like, a lot of places.

So we have to play games either Friday or Saturday. We don’t have class. So it’s a pretty good schedule in the spring, but we stay consistent. Um, throughout the year, you know, we can train and get after it. So that’s it. Hopefully, a good option out of what a. Seasonal, you know, week looks like the three different phases of the year.

Matt: Yeah, that’s fantastic. Well, Is there a roster size that that you find is ideal that you’re trying to hit each year? 

Coach: again, um Ideally like a lot of us, you know sweet spot somewhere I’m not going to run away a guy that absolutely wants to be here that that really fits, you know somewhere in the neighborhood of 24 You know, 25, like, as [00:21:00] long as I’ve got 20 guys on a roster, you know, 1st year, I’d rather have the right people.

Um, you know, you get, you get going on the, on the, you know, the wrong direction. It’s hard to, um. Uh, you know, to eliminate that, you know, you know, in midstream, obviously much easier at a 2 year school, but at the end of the day, I’d rather have the right guys and, you know, less number right guys. I choose places, including here that, like I said, they want you to drive the bus paint the field.

have 57 guys on a roster, so I’m not your guy, right? You know, I’m looking at coach dudes have valuable, impactful relationships. With these guys and be a mentor and see them grow. And I want to program a family, not just a flat by night team. On the other hand, I can do it club wise and, you know, 20 ish, you know, whatever.

And, and, and they don’t. Thankfully we had a really good ad, um, that look, I, you know, same thing, you know, he is like, I’m not trying to have, you have 40 guys. We gotta hit certain marks, you know, like every school. Um, we want guys to graduate. That’s the big mark right now. Right. You know, we, so that’s important.

Uh, but at any rate, 24, 25, but I’m not, I’m not, you know, locked into it as, you know, as far as, you know, beds and stuff, you got to sort of predict it, but we can have 23. And if I need to have 26, um, the issue, the higher you get, I don’t don’t always have the funding to treat those guys properly. And you can’t have the same.

Quality of relationship you have with those guys, the bigger you get, you know, so, um, somewhere, you know, somewhere above 20. Pushing towards twenty [00:22:30] six, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, you know, I’d like to have one, a backup at each position if possible. 

Matt: Makes sense. What about staff? What does the rest of your staff look like?

Or other staff in the athletic department that help with the team? What are the date? They all do 

Coach: things that I look for? Um, great question. I shouldn’t expect anything less than watching what you do. And I was looking for it. Yeah. So, so, um, You know, first of all, administratively we have got a, a good ad. A lot of these jobs, the, uh, baseball coach is the, is the athletic director.

Right. It’s, it’s coupled with there. So you, you know, I’ve done that before. So you learn to live with and understand that, um, you know, you, you compliment it on his field. You know, don’t mess up the field, you know, when you’re walking by. Um, and, uh, try not to, you know, um, have a lot of heavy lifting and he needs to help the program in the middle of the, uh, baseball season in spring.

’cause our seasons are flipped. No, all kidding aside, um, the, uh, uh, having a great athletic training staff, um, and having a good, um. Uh, sports information side. So, um, our system ad uh, is a, is a local guy, um, but he’s got, you know, big World can actually work for Bill Parcells with the Giants and the Cowboy, I’m sorry, with the Jets.

And the Cowboys at one point in time loves sports. Just like our ad they don’t necessarily know soccer. So they, when we get, we need a guy in place that can tell us what we need to do in the soccer role, you know? We defer to you, [00:24:00] thankfully, right? But we love sports and not, you know, this is what sports should look like and the value of it, which administration gets it.

So, you know, they’ll stick up for athletics. Um, and and so great athletic training. We have a mobile athletic training. He’s got, we’re in Northeast Texas. When I say the trailer capital of the world, that’s not a derogatory term. We lead, uh, in terms of, like, horse trailers, you know, housing trailers, you know, there are a lot of them are made right here.

Big text trailers. So, he’s got a trailer that’s fully decked out. It’s a mobile athletic training facility that we can use anywhere plus 1 on the campus. So that is a blessing. And then the man behind it is terrific. He’s a, he’s a really good athlete as good as I’ve had anywhere. So. That’s a blessing. Um, and then he also, um, has a staff of student, you know, uh, trainees, and then they also do, um, he’s got, you know, high, high depth, uh, you know, quality images.

We’ve had some ups and downs as far as. Uh, the website stuff, but, but that’s an easy fix, but, but the camera and also so everything that we need there to have, you know, athletic website quality, you know, high res stuff. Um, our athletic director signed off for me on. So we go, you know, YouTube live videos with huddle.

So, all of our games, we can broadcast live. I’m not 1 to go like, I don’t want anybody to. You know, if I, if I can’t figure it out to beat you, we’re not good enough. We’re not good. You know, so watch my games. I don’t mind. Um, and and, [00:25:30] uh, so, so them signing off on us to build have, you know, the capability to broadcast all our games on YouTube for all the families to watch.

Uh, the quick picture quality that we have for, you know, for, uh, stuff that we want to put on the website and advertise the kids. And then the athletic training facility at this level, that’s that’s fantastic. Um, And then, um, in terms of, uh, it’s a really well run institution. So, um, you know, pretty much anything you need, you know, I, I’ve learned over the years, you know, uh, just making up an example, like, you know, in the business office, there’s a lady.

You know, you want to prep kids like any school should be doing it. You know, I want to take the guys in and I don’t have, uh, trying to think, you know, some big D1 basketball institution, you know, dedicated staff to mentor the guys on when they’re going to be a number 1 draft pick what to do, but I can go over and set up something similar with somebody in the business office and go.

Oh, yeah, I’ll set up a flyer and bring them in. I can do the same thing. We don’t have a dedicated sports psychology on staff, but the, the counseling center. Oh, yeah, I can do a mental health day for you. And so you go and you put a little staff together. Yeah. Um, we do assistance here, um, really set up for young guys, maybe doing a G.

A. or finish the G. A. full time positions. Um, but they live on the campus, fully benefited health insurance, uh, food meals free, you know, um, so somebody that wants to get into coaching, uh, or he is into coaching. Maybe they’re doing doing their masters or they finish the G. A. [00:27:00] And, and they want to be, you know, work with somebody like myself for maybe three, four years, if they want to turn them over and move on to next.

And it’s really set up well for that. They can leave here and, you know, do some great things, you know, uh, full time, you’d probably get a head coaching job when they leave, to be honest. 

Matt: Yeah, that’s fantastic. Well, coach, you’ve given us a bunch of info. I don’t want to keep you here too long. It’s got one last question for you.

And that is if you had one piece of advice for somebody going through this college recruiting process right now, what would that be? 

Coach: It’s fit fit, right? You know, um, I demand every 1 of our players. I did with my staff that we just referred to that. I are, um, you know, have have a core values, you know, try to know yourself what you are, what your family’s about.

So, for me, it’s athletic, you know, uh, sport related, um, you know, what are the facilities? What are all the things we just talked about, you know, related to sport that relate to how’s that can impact you if you’re a goalkeeper, for example. Is there somebody to train you? What do they do? The goalkeepers.

Academic, did I have your major right? Um, financial, what’s the cost of attendance, you know, and I don’t get into, you know, how much does it cost? Can I afford it? You know, what’s the value, right? You know, we don’t have to have that lengthy discussion, but, you know, what value can you put on it? So, athletic, academic, financial, social.

You want to be in that big environment, crowd surfing, you know, do you mind being in a small place? You want to be by the ocean? You know, we’re not invited, you know, [00:28:30] so. Well, the same and finally, you know, you know, socially, you know, sorry, size, you know, big, small and in geographic. Yeah, do you need to be in a warm weather cold weather?

So I would take those things. Prioritize that make your list talk to folks and go from there and I demanded all of our Players and people that I work with go that so I know I know their heart they know mine 

Matt: Yeah, couldn’t agree more coach really appreciate it uh, wish you the best of luck and uh Hopefully if you if you find your way to any of the recruiting events down in florida, you let me know.

All right 

Coach: Well, I keep a Jacksonville address. My camp clinic business is registered in Jacksonville, Florida. Seems like it’s getting further and further away, but 20 years from now, we’d love to be, um, you know, dual, you know, dual, you know, a condo in North Florida place. And, uh, yeah, I would love to catch up.

Hopefully we can talk some more, you know, you know, another time when you say off the record or, but, uh, super grateful for you, if I can connect you with any, you know, folks that need to be talking to, I got a few in mind. You’re a stellar guy. I got nothing, but good to say about you. And hopefully I can see in that locker room sometime.

Where, where in Florida are you boss? I’m in Bradenton. Love it. Love it. White Scott family in Orlando. We’ll be out there sometime this year. I’ll look you up. 

Matt: Sounds like a plan. Thank take care, coach. 

Coach: God bless. Have a great, uh, you know, holiday, you know, Christmas, Hanukkah, new year’s, whatever you celebrate.

Have a great new year. 

Matt: Likewise. Take care. Blessings. 

Coach: Yep.